From general-return-30805-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Mon Jul 25 07:20:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91B8F68F6 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32589 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jul 2011 07:20:04 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 31849 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jul 2011 07:19:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 31818 invoked by uid 99); 25 Jul 2011 07:19:55 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:19:55 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of seba.wagner@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.175] (HELO mail-iy0-f175.google.com) (209.85.210.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:19:51 +0000 Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so4615557iyj.6 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 00:19:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tCNl6feLBzQB96K3sqUN+orvjy4FDU/s5i5C4RpIJPM=; b=xS8NhcwmR86Aa/P1sG2YzAD4NGheWLgWqgAvYFjHuxCkSgHgnukWwy+Y/plS1H6ENG pv0y5FJdXHyWd9LWVdpbpsNgSBAcrNqNMRW3WFUMFUPQ87x6q1zh5F21c+G16EFRa0uQ luYLS0rw//2ZvzT+C+99ToroiSBmlFd1NsYtQ= Received: by 10.231.6.157 with SMTP id 29mr2514054ibz.131.1311578370174; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 00:19:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.229.7 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 00:19:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <61c9bc470911090417m2a770e9avfbcec7816387467d@mail.gmail.com> <2B36200A-1919-4CDB-B4BE-5A1C7AA616F3@gmail.com> From: "seba.wagner@gmail.com" Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:19:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, thanks for your feedback! @Scott: I think so too. Synchrious communication could become an standard feature of Social Networking Platforms. Lets see if there is an API in Rave for integration. Sebastian 2011/7/23 Maurizio Cucchiara : > Good idea!!! I had the opportunity to try OM, nice tool! > > Maurizio Cucchiara > > Il giorno 23/lug/2011 17.57, "Scott Wilson" > ha scritto: >> Fantastic proposal. It would be even more fantastic to link it up with > Rave and Wookie! >> >> +1 (non-binding) >> >> S >> >> On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:25, Jim Jagielski wrote: >> >>> V. cool. Big +1 >>> >>> Let me know how I can help. >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:40 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> We would like to propose Openmeetings project to join the incubator. >>>> >>>> Full Proposal: >>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal >>>> >>>> Quick summary: >>>> OpenMeetings is Web Conferencing application that fits into >>>> educational or business sector. You can make conference sessions in >>>> different room-types with up to 100 peoples in a Room. It contains all >>>> main features of Web Conferencing: Audio/Video, Whiteboard, Screen >>>> Sharing, Chat and Moderation System. It is translated into more then >>>> 30 languages and its a basic goal of OpenMeetings to be easy to embed >>>> into existing environments. It already uses many of Apache >>>> Technologies like Tomcat, Mina, Velocity, Commons, ... >>>> >>>> As you can see below the last time we did the proposal we had >>>> Hibernate in our software stack, we did refactor the hole project and >>>> use openJPA now. >>>> So that one should be no more blocker to it. >>>> Red5 is used like a Servlet container and licensed under the LGPL, >>>> Red5 can be obtained for example from the Debian Repository: >>>> http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/red5-server >>>> >>>> You may find all existing documents and further material on the >>>> GoogleCode pages: http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/ >>>> >>>> We appreciate any feedback and comments on the proposal. >>>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> >>>> 2009/11/9 Ross Gardler : >>>>> Just as a point of interest, I just completed a test meeting using >>>>> OpenMeetings across three sites using the demo server. >>>>> >>>>> I was suitably impressed by the project. It has a few annoying >>>>> limitations, but as an online meeting tool it is very good. to the >>>>> extent that I will almost certainly be installing a copy on our own >>>>> servers. I would be very happy to see it coming into the incubator an= d >>>>> would be willing to be a mentor, assuming the legal issues are not >>>>> blockers. >>>>> >>>>> Ross >>>>> >>>>> 2009/11/3 Alexei Fedotov : >>>>>> Noel, >>>>>> Regarding Theora codec, I have checked the page [1]. Currently, ther= e >>>>>> are no products which successfully use the codec for video >>>>>> communication. Video-phone encodes and decodes the stream in >>>>>> real-time, adopts the quality with regard to network conditions (e.g= . >>>>>> lost packet rate) and tries to minimize subjective effects of networ= k >>>>>> errors - the list of requirements is broader than for media players >>>>>> Theora is mostly used. The work [2] says suggests using hardware >>>>>> implementations for Theora codec because, otherwise "a computational >>>>>> performance too high to be implemented in the camera by the universa= l >>>>>> processor". >>>>>> >>>>>> So at least it requires some time and testing before I can say that >>>>>> Theora-based solution is feasible. Another ecosystem change, like >>>>>> embedding video-codecs in browsers, may resolve our need in a >>>>>> different way. >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] http://www.vorbis.com/software/ >>>>>> [2] http://www3.elphel.com/linuxtag/talks_2005/paper-11081 >>>>>> >>>>>> 2009/11/3 Noel J. Bergman : >>>>>>> Alexei Fedotov wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I see two long-term possibilities for synergy. >>>>>>>> 1. BlueSky can integrate browser pannel in their client to handle = a >>>>>>>> whiteboard. In this case the code for whiteboard can be re-used in >>>>>>>> both projects. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. They promise to get rid from mplayer and ffmpeg dependencies. I= f >>>>>>>> they get a working streaming video-client under APL, this would he= lp >>>>>>>> us to remove the most imporant dependency from Flash. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They are proposing to move to Theora/Vorbis, which is under a > suitable >>>>>>> license: http://www.vorbis.com/faq/#slic. Would that be suitable fo= r > your >>>>>>> needs? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> we [also] get more people on Apache who share the same task. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Agreed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- Noel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------= -- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With best regards / =D3 =CE=C1=C9=CC=D5=DE=DB=C9=CD=C9 =D0=CF=D6=C5= =CC=C1=CE=C9=D1=CD=C9, >>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / =E1=CC=C5=CB=D3=C5=CA =E6=C5=C4=CF=D4=CF=D7, >>>>>> http://www.telecom-express.ru/ >>>>>> http://harmony.apache.org/ >>>>>> http://www.expressaas.com/ >>>>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------= - >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ross Gardler >>>>> >>>>> OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research >>>>> http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> http://www.webbase-design.de >>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com >>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >> > --=20 Sebastian Wagner http://www.webbase-design.de http://openmeetings.googlecode.com http://www.wagner-sebastian.com seba.wagner@gmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org