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From Mohammad Nour El-Din <nour.moham...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing
Date Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:29:23 GMT
Hi...

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Alexei Fedotov
<alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mohammad,
>
> Any impressions to share? Have you occasionally faced any bugs?

  1- I didn't find a way to create my own rooms ? Maybe I missed it
some where, but I didn't find it :).
  2- When I tried it with a colleague of mine and start a conference
or a Webinar, I get a pop-up asking me permission to use my mic and
camera and when I say yes, I get another pop-up I guess related to
Flash but it is inactive the OK and Cancel button are not clickable
but not dimmed.

3- Also, but this is only from a user perspective, I guess it needs
some work on the UI :), I believe it can be simpler, I am not a UI guy
but I am talking comparing to other similar solutions, like Google+
Hangout for example which was very easy to use from the 1st try.

I hope my comments can help :).


>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
>
>
> 2011/7/25 Mohammad Nour El-Din <nour.mohammad@gmail.com>:
>> +1 for the proposal
>>
>> I tried it out. It looks very promising :).
>>
>> 2011/7/25 seba.wagner@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmail.com>:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> thanks for your feedback!
>>> @Scott: I think so too. Synchrious communication could become an
>>> standard feature of Social Networking Platforms. Lets see if there is
>>> an API in Rave for integration.
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>> 2011/7/23 Maurizio Cucchiara <maurizio.cucchiara@gmail.com>:
>>>> Good idea!!! I had the opportunity to try OM, nice tool!
>>>>
>>>> Maurizio Cucchiara
>>>>
>>>> Il giorno 23/lug/2011 17.57, "Scott Wilson" <scott.bradley.wilson@gmail.com>
>>>> ha scritto:
>>>>> Fantastic proposal. It would be even more fantastic to link it up with
>>>> Rave and Wookie!
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>>>>
>>>>> S
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:25, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> V. cool. Big +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know how I can help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:40 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We would like to propose Openmeetings project to join the incubator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Full Proposal:
>>>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quick summary:
>>>>>>> OpenMeetings is Web Conferencing application that fits into
>>>>>>> educational or business sector. You can make conference sessions
in
>>>>>>> different room-types with up to 100 peoples in a Room. It contains
all
>>>>>>> main features of Web Conferencing: Audio/Video, Whiteboard, Screen
>>>>>>> Sharing, Chat and Moderation System. It is translated into more
then
>>>>>>> 30 languages and its a basic goal of OpenMeetings to be easy
to embed
>>>>>>> into existing environments. It already uses many of Apache
>>>>>>> Technologies like Tomcat, Mina, Velocity, Commons, ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As you can see below the last time we did the proposal we had
>>>>>>> Hibernate in our software stack, we did refactor the hole project
and
>>>>>>> use openJPA now.
>>>>>>> So that one should be no more blocker to it.
>>>>>>> Red5 is used like a Servlet container and licensed under the
LGPL,
>>>>>>> Red5 can be obtained for example from the Debian Repository:
>>>>>>> http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/red5-server
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You may find all existing documents and further material on the
>>>>>>> GoogleCode pages: http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We appreciate any feedback and comments on the proposal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/11/9 Ross Gardler <rgardler@apache.org>:
>>>>>>>> Just as a point of interest, I just completed a test meeting
using
>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings across three sites using the demo server.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was suitably impressed by the project. It has a few annoying
>>>>>>>> limitations, but as an online meeting tool it is very good.
to the
>>>>>>>> extent that I will almost certainly be installing a copy
on our own
>>>>>>>> servers. I would be very happy to see it coming into the
incubator and
>>>>>>>> would be willing to be a mentor, assuming the legal issues
are not
>>>>>>>> blockers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ross
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2009/11/3 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>> Noel,
>>>>>>>>> Regarding Theora codec, I have checked the page [1].
Currently, there
>>>>>>>>> are no products which successfully use the codec for
video
>>>>>>>>> communication. Video-phone encodes and decodes the stream
in
>>>>>>>>> real-time, adopts the quality with regard to network
conditions (e.g.
>>>>>>>>> lost packet rate) and tries to minimize subjective effects
of network
>>>>>>>>> errors - the list of requirements is broader than for
media players
>>>>>>>>> Theora is mostly used. The work [2] says suggests using
hardware
>>>>>>>>> implementations for Theora codec because, otherwise "a
computational
>>>>>>>>> performance too high to be implemented in the camera
by the universal
>>>>>>>>> processor".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So at least it requires some time and testing before
I can say that
>>>>>>>>> Theora-based solution is feasible. Another ecosystem
change, like
>>>>>>>>> embedding video-codecs in browsers, may resolve our need
in a
>>>>>>>>> different way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.vorbis.com/software/
>>>>>>>>> [2] http://www3.elphel.com/linuxtag/talks_2005/paper-11081
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2009/11/3 Noel J. Bergman <noel@devtech.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> Alexei Fedotov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I see two long-term possibilities for synergy.
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. BlueSky can integrate browser pannel in their
client to handle a
>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard. In this case the code for whiteboard
can be re-used in
>>>>>>>>>>> both projects.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. They promise to get rid from mplayer and ffmpeg
dependencies. If
>>>>>>>>>>> they get a working streaming video-client under
APL, this would help
>>>>>>>>>>> us to remove the most imporant dependency from
Flash.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They are proposing to move to Theora/Vorbis, which
is under a
>>>> suitable
>>>>>>>>>> license: http://www.vorbis.com/faq/#slic. Would that
be suitable for
>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> needs?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> we [also] get more people on Apache who share
the same task.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --- Noel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>>>>>> http://www.telecom-express.ru/
>>>>>>>>> http://harmony.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>> http://www.expressaas.com/
>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com/
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Ross Gardler
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
>>>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>>>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
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>>>
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>>> --
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
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>> Thanks
>> - Mohammad Nour
>>   Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide)
>>   http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
>> - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com
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>> - Albert Einstein
>>
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>> professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less
>> than your best."
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>>
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Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
  Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide)
  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
- Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein

"Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a
professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less
than your best."
- Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship

"Stay hungry, stay foolish."
- Steve Jobs

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