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From "Upayavira" ...@odoko.co.uk>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling
Date Mon, 04 Jul 2011 09:13:51 GMT


On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:51 -0500, "William A. Rowe Jr."
<wrowe@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> On 6/28/2011 12:49 AM, berndf wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > 
> > this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
> > 
> > 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
> > becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
> > developers are changing frequently without notifications on the public
> > lists. Mentors are M.I.A. Reports are often late. No Apache release was
> > every made.
> > 
> > There were multiple attempts to reboot the podling (Thanks Luciano!)
> > without much success.
> > 
> > So now I'm calling a vote to end Incubation for Bluesky.
> > The vote is open at least until 2011-07-02 12:00 UTC.
> > 
> > [] +1, retire Bluesky for the time being
> 
> +1
> 
> I'm sorry that the chief advocates of this code still do not see the
> actual flaws in the development methodology.  I really believe that the
> language barrier is a significant obstacle in discussing code on list
> and part of the reason this project still isn't functioning correctly,
> even though these advocates have been reminded over and over what must
> happen to survive as an ASF project.
> 
> If the advocates wish to run this project in a transparent, collaborative
> and open Apache-like way, a Chinese language development discussion list
> and more liberal granting of commit access for the students terms could
> make a lot of sense.  This need not happen at the ASF itself, but could
> be replicated anywhere.
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't believe there is any effort to run this in an
> ASF-like collaborative way, so this project doesn't belong here.  The
> issue of creating localized development discussion lists is another
> matter that could have been pursued, and may one day happen for one
> project or another, but I don't think it would be very fruitful to
> further force a round peg in a square hole.

Unfortunately, I concur.

+1

Upayavira

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