Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED660671D for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 52996 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jun 2011 21:26:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52821 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jun 2011 21:26:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52813 invoked by uid 99); 5 Jun 2011 21:26:25 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 21:26:25 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of robert_weir@us.ibm.com designates 32.97.110.149 as permitted sender) Received: from [32.97.110.149] (HELO e31.co.us.ibm.com) (32.97.110.149) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 21:26:15 +0000 Received: from d03relay03.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.228]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p55L9DWC024402 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:09:13 -0600 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by d03relay03.boulder.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id p55LPpAn158714 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:25:51 -0600 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id p55FPo99015041 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 09:25:50 -0600 Received: from wtfmail03.edc.lotus.com (WTFMAIL03.lotus.com [9.32.140.19]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id p55FPodw015037 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 09:25:50 -0600 In-Reply-To: <4DEBE6A5.2020800@gmail.com> References: <4DEBE6A5.2020800@gmail.com> To: general@incubator.apache.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: OpenOffice: were are we now? X-KeepSent: 6AC6B18F:C6481E31-852578A6:00718C6F; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Build V852_05272010 May 27, 2010 From: robert_weir@us.ibm.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 17:25:49 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WTFMAIL03/WTF/M/Lotus(Release 8.5.2FP3NP|April 26, 2011) at 06/05/2011 05:25:51 PM, Serialize complete at 06/05/2011 05:25:51 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org > From: Phil Steitz > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Date: 06/05/2011 04:34 PM > Subject: Re: OpenOffice: were are we now? > > On 6/5/11 11:21 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > > > > We should also remember that, with Oracle abandoning OO, we are being > > used to facilitate their business relations with IBM. IBM could (and > > still can) decide to put its efforts into LibreOffice and while we may > > have philosophical differences over license, they surely don't as we > > witnessed when they transferred their efforts from our Harmony project > > to the GPL'd OpenJDK. > > Interesting point. I wonder if there is an explanation for this > inconsistency from the IBM perspective. > I think it is an error to believe that there are only two choices here, Apache or LibreOffice. There are many other reasonable open source foundations. IBM has good relations with many of them. We have employees who contribute to many projects at Apache. We would be honored to work on OpenOffice at Apache. We think it is a good fit. The license is one factor, but not the only factor. So, it does not logically follow that if a proposal at Apache is rejected that we go to TDF/LO. -Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org