Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D663C6CFA for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:02:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 52237 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jun 2011 22:02:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52099 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jun 2011 22:02:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52091 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jun 2011 22:02:07 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:02:07 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of robert_weir@us.ibm.com designates 32.97.182.138 as permitted sender) Received: from [32.97.182.138] (HELO e8.ny.us.ibm.com) (32.97.182.138) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:01:57 +0000 Received: from d01relay01.pok.ibm.com (d01relay01.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.233]) by e8.ny.us.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p53Loc6N009645 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:50:38 -0400 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (d01av02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.216]) by d01relay01.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id p53M1a3A131552 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 18:01:36 -0400 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id p53M1avX006326 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 19:01:36 -0300 Received: from wtfmail03.edc.lotus.com (WTFMAIL03.lotus.com [9.32.140.19]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id p53M1ZfW006315 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 19:01:35 -0300 In-Reply-To: References: To: general@incubator.apache.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO X-KeepSent: 4E8E8FA1:B7F28B58-852578A4:007807DC; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Build V852_05272010 May 27, 2010 From: robert_weir@us.ibm.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 18:01:34 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WTFMAIL03/WTF/M/Lotus(Release 8.5.2FP3NP|April 26, 2011) at 06/03/2011 06:01:36 PM, Serialize complete at 06/03/2011 06:01:36 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Greg Stein wrote on 06/03/2011 05:42:14 PM: > > So yah. I'm giving up on this for now. My suggestions are hitting a > teflon wall. But it shouldn't. Including the LO community in this > proposal should be a no-brainer. I don't think that "including them by > reference [to the Apache License]" is a cop-out. Several times, you > fallen back to "but they can just use the code like anybody else". But > they're AREN'T ANYBODY ELSE. > But I'm not giving up on you, Greg, or this section of the proposal. I am attaching this section of the proposal as it stands now. Would you or anyone else like to contribute any improvements? Personal attacks, please, to /dev/null. Regards, -Rob LibreOffice uses a dual license LGPLv3/MPL. This limits the degree to which OpenOffice and LibreOffice can collaborate on code. However, we would be glad to discuss, as a project, ways in which we can collaborate with them in a way that respects the chosen licenses of both projects. This could include collaboration on jointly sponsored public events, interoperability 'plugfests', standards, shared build management infrastructure, shared release mirrors, coordination of build schedules, version numbers, defect lists, and other downstream requirements. Additionally, collaboration could include LibreOffice use of project deliverables per the Apache 2.0 license and their reporting of defects. If TDF decides at a later point to change to a compatible license, then this would open up additional ways in which we could collaborate, and we would welcome that as well. We believe that, in practice, the degree to which we are able to actually collaborate will be determined by the licence compatibility issue more than than any unwillingness to collaborate. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org