Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DD76452F for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29511 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jun 2011 15:18:18 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 29370 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jun 2011 15:18:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 29362 invoked by uid 99); 2 Jun 2011 15:18:18 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:18:18 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: 76.96.62.32 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of jim@jagunet.com) Received: from [76.96.62.32] (HELO qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.62.32) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:18:11 +0000 Received: from omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.87]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id r39T1g0071swQuc533HruP; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:17:51 +0000 Received: from [192.168.199.10] ([69.251.84.64]) by omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id r3Hn1g00Z1PGofZ3b3Hp6q; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:17:50 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Happy happy joy joy From: Jim Jagielski In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:17:45 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <4DE65D8F.8060002@oracle.com> <4DE66703.4000007@apache.org> To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Guys, if we are going to argue over the mistakes of the pasts and the slights of the past, quite frankly, we aren't going to get very far. This is supposed to be a happy occasion; let's not bicker and argue about who-killed-who... :) On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:11 AM, robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote: > Jochen Wiedmann wrote on 06/02/2011 10:25:20 > AM: > >>> >>> I trust I do not need to explain at length to an Apache PMC the > relative >>> merits of the Apache 2.0 license or the strengths and stability of the >>> ASF. I'll take it as granted that this is well-known to you all. In > any >>> case I am a strict adherent to the practical wisdom of not debating > open >>> source licenses while sober, and I decline to make an exception in > this >>> case. >> >> Rob, it may come as a surprise to you: But what I wrote was in no way >> related to a particular license. I would have written just the same, >> if Apache would use the LGPL/MPL and LibreOffice where ASL licensed. >> >> The point I am trying to make is that it is (IMO) in noone's interest >> to create a second community (!), the exception (at least it seems) >> being IBM. Everyone else would be just as happy or even happier if the >> OO code base, trademarks, etc. where simply donated to TDF. >> > > Respectfully, Jochen, that is your opinion, but it disproved with every > non-IBM name added to the wiki. > > Despite TDF press releases, there was never unanimous support for > LibreOffice among members of the OpenOffice.org community. We're seeing > some of them stand up now and be counted. > > What is best for them? Really? Do you really want to tell them what is > best for them, what will make everyone happy?! > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org