Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33CFA60A7 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19192 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jun 2011 17:36:32 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 18799 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jun 2011 17:36:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 18791 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jun 2011 17:36:32 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 17:36:32 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of simon@webmink.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.175] (HELO mail-wy0-f175.google.com) (74.125.82.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 17:36:25 +0000 Received: by wye20 with SMTP id 20so1821902wye.6 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.232.13 with SMTP id m13mr2764062weq.110.1307122563955; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.8] (172.79.2.81.in-addr.arpa [81.2.79.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r20sm966841wec.7.2011.06.03.10.36.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community? From: Simon Phipps In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 18:36:01 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20110602000137.GA60771@devsys.jaguNET.com> <4DE6D6E9.8080609@apache.org> <4DE76850.2060905@documentfoundation.org> <4DE8FBCD.3080104@documentfoundation.org> To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) On 3 Jun 2011, at 17:52, Ian Lynch wrote: > Hi Florian, >=20 >=20 >> I do see with great concern is the need for a second project to be = set-up >> at Apache or any other entity. >>=20 >=20 > Thing is that this is done, Oracle didn't and won't now give the IP to = any > other foundation. So we are where we are. We may be where we are, but we collectively have the opportunity to = collaborate once Oracle has gone - that's what "open" means. "My way or = the highway" talk - from any side - is detestable. ASF has the = opportunity to reject the bait to head down the path of ideological = conflict, choose a conciliatory path that respects the existing = community and especially to use the trademark (which is the only actual = asset being transferred) for everyone's good. S. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org