Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3ADD4092 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 88663 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jun 2011 21:50:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 88498 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jun 2011 21:50:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 88490 invoked by uid 99); 2 Jun 2011 21:50:59 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:50:59 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,GAPPY_SUBJECT,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RFC_ABUSE_POST,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of ianrlynch@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.212.47] (HELO mail-vw0-f47.google.com) (209.85.212.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:50:55 +0000 Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2so1116822vws.6 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 14:50:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mcFujGG05zF8qUJT9dlDYPxekaTlWLSAPoTkbHMOJbA=; b=OYzCMxncMWwi36ufGZp7QCxhY9t1c808D3zxFgRKSc/Tqguk62i9anw0v/x4tA6Dz6 XSbDzv7Yxhlwa1RDEVes67dKMPs/NEAYV5b1zP3Ls167CmUCGCBNhsrc8gdHhptsDY2Y z7DBpMGboZ56ifq/tjcZIrzpbHUbQ4G4A8Dh0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=D8AyvFzowbBUSTl+EsyLRWj6tnUmZdrMl+DyEWKQP5pdLb4ynjyci41QzzYPi8njsJ t7cntZGuSm0dEgDk8UwlpW78uyEQRGyqEDdx3bUf/8+qHZBWSOLgjk9QVzhp53AIcFma Y2kc0Jk5iE67dEfGybzYbeMF5mvaI2lQ/8YOU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.177.166 with SMTP id cr6mr1646439vdc.151.1307051434314; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 14:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.167.41 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:50:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4DE7DE06.6080500@documentfoundation.org> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:50:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community? From: Ian Lynch To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071ccaa720c1e04a4c1a002 --20cf3071ccaa720c1e04a4c1a002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 2 June 2011 22:42, Benson Margulies wrote: The existing of TDF and the preference of its contributors for > copyleft is data, but for me it's not data that could persuade me to > vote -1 in this PMC. I don't care if there are 5,000 people out there > who are firmly planning to stick to TDF like glue. I care if there are > 10 or 20 who are prepared to take this on. > But you probably make it more likely that you will get your 10-20 and more if you don't unnecessarily alienate those who have put a lot of time and effort into OOo in the past. In addition, if we want a thriving open source office project it makes sense to treat those involved with some sensitivity because hopefully everyone will work together constructively in the future. Personally, I also prefer to be lenient about launching podlings and > then strict about noticing when they are failing to hatch. > > I am sympathetic to those TDF contributors for whom this development > arrives as an unwelcome surprise and perhaps a cheap parthian shot > from Oracle and IBM. However, as a member of the ASF and the incubator > PMC, my sympathy does not extend to voting against this proposal on > criteria related to the possible damage to TDF/LO or the success or > failure of some attempt treat this as 'the one and only' successor to > the Sun's open office. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQ www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. --20cf3071ccaa720c1e04a4c1a002--