Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12E1B458C for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 89513 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jun 2011 18:26:30 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 89377 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jun 2011 18:26:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 89356 invoked by uid 99); 6 Jun 2011 18:26:30 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:26:30 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RFC_ABUSE_POST,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of gstein@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.175] (HELO mail-vx0-f175.google.com) (209.85.220.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:26:25 +0000 Received: by vxd7 with SMTP id 7so3400487vxd.6 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:26:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DnG7E9KyuzaOmRDIXFjlcak12+lZL7LiELsql8Vh3hk=; b=YO0c/eudwASl1yRQE9jFukcuG4ls/XDjTE709kuvtce5ATw2SkSDVeFeohXI3wKESr uzj+XNgmHNi4pTzG1HVi9Fqiqkwtj80+sChcX4ffid+BVL27pBGr3JRIUvAcijXyjBo4 bLwgSESoSHgHLKvRIewzO1GD4YL63O8cFUL7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZGX1Vg+LYDCpqzPU8y7uNas4ss6VchCJRNimDGD9Qx8r5qb0Z2sUQsiDTjO2mq/MpE qW73HBzvd8NkhViUC21T9ptPFANM3PG9zFV1ju1Nr7wwPArvYGadEPglEkk/93rBrqFj rL38JPP8/D5NIgGWSSY26x+iKZ9osgzcrB8Uo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.96.167 with SMTP id dt7mr4292790vdb.181.1307384764080; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.162.226 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:26:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DED19C5.4020005@ungoverned.org> References: <4DEBE6A5.2020800@gmail.com> <4DEC5AE6.3070303@gmail.com> <4DEC6296.9060001@rowe-clan.net> <4DEC69ED.3000800@gmail.com> <4DEC732F.3000008@rowe-clan.net> <4DEC7844.7060102@gmail.com> <4DECE1E5.1010608@ungoverned.org> <4DECEBE9.2010407@ungoverned.org> <4DECF4A1.8090002@ungoverned.org> <4DED19C5.4020005@ungoverned.org> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:26:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OpenOffice: were are we now? From: Greg Stein To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:17, Richard S. Hall wrote: > On 6/6/11 13:50, Greg Stein wrote: >... >> How about we drop these lines of discussion, and simply follow Ross' >> advice and focus on "what is needed by the Incubator PMC to accept >> this proposal?" > > While I agree that a lot of this discussion is pointless, I guess it is just > difficult to know where to precisely draw the line since my original > response was to Phil Steitz (who is on the IPMC), where he at least implied > if not directly stated that this proposal was exploitative and that was > potential grounds for rejecting it. > > The difficulty in discussing this is because there are so many emotional > minefields (and probably rightly so) for those involved so it is easy for > some people to assume the worst in what gets said/written. For me, I have no > emotion invested in this at all. I'm just a user of OOo since 2000 and a guy > who likes the Apache license. Agreed. Personally, I use OOo sparingly, as I prefer Google Docs. My interest is largely spurred by the attraction of being able to apply ALv2 to this awesome piece of software. I believe that will be a *huge* enabler for the software world. It is vanishingly rare to have such a situation. "Epic" might be a good word :-) ... and who *doesn't* want to be part of something like that? Cheers, -g --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org