Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 040D3462D for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 69973 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jun 2011 13:39:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 69791 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jun 2011 13:39:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 69782 invoked by uid 99); 6 Jun 2011 13:39:28 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:39:28 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RFC_ABUSE_POST,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of sa3ruby@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.175] (HELO mail-vx0-f175.google.com) (209.85.220.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:39:23 +0000 Received: by vxd7 with SMTP id 7so3126715vxd.6 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 06:39:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/H244owqjhSfg1Hqk936olMRGXf0fI3p2NUr0uit4Xo=; b=xMuoc2EC+yXAFaIAjw3Nc653jvQ3/95F0BMQdyB9IfrNyrryYxWsB4qRNBVjyUmAA7 mbKkyJDvFmusCQ7YKGt029hd56f7jjpVOpQfu/CPqCO9WywwjwhFaa7cCqoQqGZZvb0n 8IU482tEeqxUUBulbPktF1F++iRpAdlh1aNRs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=jlpQ3w96crmjZ9v3flLanNE4RR5oQPm7Km7SBxewQXIsefVZahY6nokMtNCtk+DYXP 0yvgM77HG7zUQRoWsoD/1z2EIh/EK9yHLpH70D0gFvQcJ+qeq2uj7FcgZbDvQZNmJSfE J2KHN5XHS7tF3eh/WT8cNG+3Wd71pE5m2lne4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.97.99 with SMTP id dz3mr4520387vdb.161.1307367542681; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 06:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: sa3ruby@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.109.37 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 06:39:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2AA6AD2C-54E2-4BB3-A883-24B499B780F3@jaguNET.com> References: <201106051644.30736.ariel.constenla.haile@gmail.com> <91C2A20A-EEEA-4655-A4C4-25093E3F6767@jaguNET.com> <862784.82222.qm@web161406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <139253.77879.qm@web161424.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <2AA6AD2C-54E2-4BB3-A883-24B499B780F3@jaguNET.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:39:02 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8nFX5o1nujogWy4_TxY_IiE-HMU Message-ID: Subject: Re: Initial source files (was: OpenOffice: were are we now?) From: Sam Ruby To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > That's correct... I had hoped that my follow-up had made > that clear. Just catching up on email after grabbing a quick breakfast. I did give people permission to make uncontroversial changes, and asked them to discuss here first and work to find consensus before applying those changes. I continue to encourage people to do such. I specifically encourage people who have put their name on the page to do so. I encourage Simon to not only continue to do so, but also to put his name on the page in the section on committers. Not because I always agree with what Simon has to say but because I often don't, and I value diversity. If anybody wishes to make a substantially different proposal, I ask them to find a sponsor and create a separate page. Heck, I might even sponsor both if they each seem worthwhile. Even if they compete with one another. - Sam Ruby > On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > >> FWIW, IMO it's Sam's call as he is the sponsor. =C2=A0Jim >> is just trying to avoid a situation where people who >> aren't signed up for the project start placing conditions >> on it. =C2=A0 To my knowledge you haven't done that, and >> as you remarked you got permission to make your edits >> from the sponsor. >> >> >> Don't worry too much about it, Simon. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Simon Phipps >>> To: general@incubator.apache.org >>> Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 9:11:33 AM >>> Subject: Re: Initial source files (was: OpenOffice: were are we now?) >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Joe Schaefer = =C2=A0wrote: >>> >>>> Like most aspects of Apache, it's easier to ask for =C2=A0forgiveness >>>> >>>> than to seek permission, epecially when we don't all =C2=A0agree on >>>> the necessity of it ;-). >>>> >>>> >>> Given I had =C2=A0actually asked for and received permission from the p= roposal >>> mentor I thought =C2=A0most likely to object, I'm actually pretty pisse= d and >>> alienated to be told =C2=A0off for contributing. Going out for sushi to= cool off. >>> >>> S. >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org