Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF56D410B for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 16:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 99096 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jun 2011 16:16:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 98942 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jun 2011 16:16:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 98934 invoked by uid 99); 6 Jun 2011 16:16:51 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:16:51 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [85.25.5.69] (HELO srv07.codedragons.net) (85.25.5.69) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:16:44 +0000 Received: from mail-gy0-f175.google.com ([209.85.160.175]) by srv07.codedragons.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QTcTW-0004Iw-Je for general@incubator.apache.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:16:22 +0200 Received: by gyf1 with SMTP id 1so1669604gyf.6 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 09:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.79.72 with SMTP id h48mr6548930yhe.491.1307376743108; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 09:12:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.44.37 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:12:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Niclas Hedhman Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 00:12:03 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Question to TDF and its community To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Dear TDFers, I was on a long flight and came back to an immense number of mails here and elsewhere on this topic, so please bear with me if this has been brought up before, by someone else. I vaguely recall the fork of OOo into LibreOffice, and if memory serves me right it was due to escape Oracle's governance/influence, or something to that extent. Was it already at that time known that Oracle was going with a liberal license, and the fork was then a choice based in the ideological differences in licensing? If it was not, how would the people who forked then have reacted if Oracle did then (pre-fork) what they are doing now? Finally, do you (TDF) thinks it is better that Oracle gives the codebase, trademarks and other IP-rights to IBM than to Apache? The way I read the situation, that is the alternative available most likely to happen in that case, possibly as a fully internal project. Giving OOo to TDF is something Oracle simply can't do, there is likely a promise to IBM... Cheers --=20 Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I=A0live here; http://tinyurl.com/3xugrbk I=A0work here; http://tinyurl.com/24svnvk I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org