Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46DCE6750 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1444 invoked by uid 500); 9 Jun 2011 16:47:29 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 1322 invoked by uid 500); 9 Jun 2011 16:47:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 1314 invoked by uid 99); 9 Jun 2011 16:47:29 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:47:29 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of simon@webmink.com designates 209.85.216.182 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.182] (HELO mail-qy0-f182.google.com) (209.85.216.182) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:47:22 +0000 Received: by qyk27 with SMTP id 27so1152498qyk.6 for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 09:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.26.140 with SMTP id e12mr683474qcc.297.1307638021233; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 09:47:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.233.131 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:46:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [81.2.79.172] In-Reply-To: References: <00EDD8E7-3429-486E-8E1A-7FBA310A1408@webmink.com> <1307109931.13558.228.camel@lenovo-w500> <1307636876.27096.183.camel@lenovo-w500> From: Simon Phipps Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:46:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Remediation ... To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636831e7ec01e0f04a54a33fc X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001636831e7ec01e0f04a54a33fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Michael Meeks > wrote: > > > > IMHO this is vastly preferable to some smoke and lawyer (IANAL) > > filled room that issues edicts to remove features and veto patches > > without a clear public rational on a public list (cf. the above). > > All work at the ASF that involve changes to the code base will be done > in smoke-free and publicly archived mailing lists. > > If you have questions relating to prior work done by groups other than > the ASF, I encourage you to contact those groups directly. > Despite the tone, I do think Michael makes a serious point. Rob did indicate that IBM has IP concerns and it would be good to have more details before Apache takes on any responsibilities for the code. S. --001636831e7ec01e0f04a54a33fc--