Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5287A4C23 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32126 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jun 2011 15:30:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 31980 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jun 2011 15:30:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 31972 invoked by uid 99); 4 Jun 2011 15:30:14 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 15:30:14 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RFC_ABUSE_POST,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of ianrlynch@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.160.175] (HELO mail-gy0-f175.google.com) (209.85.160.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 15:30:10 +0000 Received: by gyf1 with SMTP id 1so1174872gyf.6 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:29:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2BQk2t+QcOwAmeGpCeQNyhGOHuaYaF/kKIoRUmgZc1Y=; b=kTe/w0TapfvS2R9D9QDE+5q2y3PD7UM51mScLnqr/ZAeV5vQBi16EX8UigS63m8Gl/ wpg8mbaDozyu+6dXp8/z2jpwzjDreXsNqDpGOk1zBOrCgDqaBOF14XK1k0dzfWZRj5op Klrvz4VLXRFGcIjROkSv28fMHahc90xNNsgq0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ClaGaVLQtoLl1FgoO1ciAUxshLoC+rpLDzbbSDJBbcxPslMH0p8s/n8K/AlABtqHPb 70dRlUt7G8hNFBeoTE9qK+cKBcR0PRJyHC3lP6+StJ1o5YSWsHzFehKwXmBBilBt1ODa mcU+6/k+8/kvpTVOB7jAc/rKyhNbMi0uGLQJ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.152.38 with SMTP id e38mr2109143ano.147.1307201389079; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.110.7 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:29:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <002701cc22ad$f4aee150$de0ca3f0$@openoffice.org> References: <002701cc22ad$f4aee150$de0ca3f0$@openoffice.org> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 16:29:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recuse as mentor? From: Ian Lynch To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c927bc722d0504a4e48a1e --001636c927bc722d0504a4e48a1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 4 June 2011 12:52, Allen Pulsifer wrote: > > Jim Jagielski wote: > > Seems that some people are not happy with my outreach to the communties, > or whatever... > > There are plenty of suggestions and posts on things that I have done > wrong, or did not do, > > or did not due to someone's satisfaction. > > If people want, I will happily remove myself as mentor. This is supposed > to be fun and at > > least *somewhat* fulfilling... > > Hello Jim, > > There is no question that the former OpenOffice community is now fractured, > and some people have some strong negative feelings about certain parties. > That is an environment which neither of us caused but it is what it is and > something we need to deal with. > > With that backdrop, I have been perplexed and concerned with some of your > public postings. They have been things I might expect to see coming from a > member of the gallery, but not from the President of the Apache Software > Foundation, a project mentor, and a person who I would think would be > trying > to promote a sense of community. Its seems that you have a high level of > mistrust for certain persons and are not prepared to reach out > magnanimously > to all parties in an attempt to bring them together. I see this as > creating > ongoing problems. > > When I initially read your offer to recuse yourself as a mentor, I read it > and gave it some thought but had no immediate response. With your post > this > morning however, and while speaking only as a member of the OpenOffice > community and a guest here at the Apache Software Foundation, I am now > prepared to accept your offer to recuse yourself as a mentor. > As a long time member of the OOo community myself I say you should stay. This is all a bit contentious so let's try to keep things friendly and if we say things we regret or are taken the wrong way, apologise and move on. > > Thank you, > > Allen > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQ www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. --001636c927bc722d0504a4e48a1e--