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Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:50:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice
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----- Original Message ----

> From: Keith Curtis <keithcu@gmail.com>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 6:45:15 PM
> Subject: Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice
> 
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>  wrote:
> >
> > We only benefit if the code is contributed to us, as we  only accept
> > voluntary contributions.  Nobody is going to rifle thru LO's  repository
> > looking for juicy bits to snarf, we don't work like that.   What we're
> > hoping for is to attract devs who work on LO to join our  project as
> > committers, so whatever contributions they'd like to offer  can get folded
> > back to us without a lot of fuss.
> 
> As the trees  diverge, it will get harder to give code to you both.
> What if some changes  depend on other GPL code? Your insistence on
> Apache licensed work will make  it hard for many people to contribute
> to you. I find it ironic that the  Apache license is permissive, but
> the people don't want any free/libre code  mixed with it. That is not
> permissive.
> 
> >
> > As I said earlier,  the hope is that LO will pull from us for the core
> > bits, and almost  immediately we'll have the bits stored in svn mirrored
> > to our github  acct to facilitate that.  While I wouldn't recommend this
> > any time soon,  at some point the ASF may try to tie access to the OOo brand
> > to the use  of a substantial amount of our software, so as not to confuse
> > the public  about the nature of the use of the mark.
> 
> LibreOffice will for a long time  be using a substantial amount of
> "your" software. Given that LibreOffice is  what caused Oracle to give
> up their trademark, I would think you would offer  it to them also.

We are a type-O org.  Anyone can take our blood and mix it with their own.
That "universal donor" condition places lots of restrictions on our projects,
but somehow they manage to release useful software.

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