Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31C7B69E7 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 01:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 48009 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jun 2011 01:12:45 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 47842 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jun 2011 01:12:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 47834 invoked by uid 99); 6 Jun 2011 01:12:44 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 01:12:44 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [72.167.82.84] (HELO p3plsmtpa01-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net) (72.167.82.84) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 01:12:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 11209 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2011 01:12:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.252.112.72) by p3plsmtpa01-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.84) with ESMTP; 06 Jun 2011 01:12:14 -0000 Message-ID: <4DEC2965.8010307@rowe-clan.net> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:12:05 -0500 From: "William A. Rowe Jr." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: /ignore troll [was: OpenOffice & LibreOffice] References: <4DEBC130.1050400@rowe-clan.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 6/5/2011 3:56 PM, Keith Curtis wrote: > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:47 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. > wrote: > >> others, "Free/Libre" software. Nobody is suggesting that any AL work >> is ever "Free/Libre". There is a multiplicity of Open Source thought, >> and we won't go into detail, others have done so better than the two >> of us can. > > The first step to abandoning the Apache license is for others to > recognize like you have that it is not a "free/libre" license. I don't > know why people bother to put the Apache text at the top of every > file, when someone else can just as quickly remove / relicense it. > Anyway, that is for another day other than the fact that I think IBM > should be endorsing the LGPL / GPL as their preferred license. Correct, it is not a free/libre license, doesn't try to be, doesn't claim to be, you cannot strip the copyright without permission, you can only relicense under appropriate terms. What you believe IBM should do likely has no bearing on what IBM will choose to do. We are now >50 posts on this list into an individual who is not a contributor to TDF/LO, and is here seeking publicity for his writing. Let's remember please to not feed the trolls, and move on. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org