Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9598F618E for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 18:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 79601 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jun 2011 18:05:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 79486 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jun 2011 18:05:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 79478 invoked by uid 99); 5 Jun 2011 18:05:41 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 18:05:41 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [64.202.165.35] (HELO smtpauth12.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) (64.202.165.35) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 18:05:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 28211 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2011 18:05:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.252.112.72) by smtpauth12.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.35) with ESMTP; 05 Jun 2011 18:05:08 -0000 Message-ID: <4DEBC550.60507@rowe-clan.net> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 13:05:04 -0500 From: "William A. Rowe Jr." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice: were are we now? References: <1CCA28A9-8AEE-4694-AEB7-242EF48926DD@dslextreme.com> In-Reply-To: <1CCA28A9-8AEE-4694-AEB7-242EF48926DD@dslextreme.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 6/5/2011 10:43 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > I posted a similar statement yesterday. Personally, I think the traffic on this list has settled down a lot in the last 24 hours and is now focusing in on topics more relevant to this list. But maybe that is just because it was Saturday :-) Agreed, just some quick thoughts... > What I am still waiting to hear on are: > 1. The amount of code in the project that the grant didn't give to us under the Apache License. List published by Sam, and Christian suggests this reflects the OOo repo... http://people.apache.org/~rubys/openoffice.files.txt Actually tearing into that repo for files differently-copyrighted might be a task for RAT :) > 2. The amount of work that will be required to rework dependencies. Seems the list is manageable... http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/External/Modules Note that an unworkable dependency dropped by ASF Office can (and perhaps even should) be retained by LibreOffice in their distribution. > 3. Whether the number of initial committers will be sufficient to start the project (this is probably going to be very subjective). After a matter of several more days, I'm optimistic at the current growth. > 4. Whether there are enough mentors who have the time to devote to this. Since this is a very large undertaking I'd appreciate a bit more than just their name on the wiki but perhaps an actual estimate of how much time they have to devote to the project. I mostly replied to make sure everyone is clear. Mentors are here to serve as guides. As mentors, we are not coders, or documentors. We often help with the little things (starting the status pages, performing initial list creation, and introducing folks to ASF resources like Jira or Bugzilla, svn and other resources). Having some of those resources directly represented as mentors is going to speed things up enormously and help answer "Why does the ASF do it *that* way?" in a more thorough way. To the extent that the mentors help "manage" the project, they are participants in the podling just like all of the other contributors. They may have the only 'binding' vote on certain matters, but the community starts off, day one, as a community of equals. Earned merit follows based on individual contributions. So I feel that 4 is already covered. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org