Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 009D36A71 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:31:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 72663 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jun 2011 09:31:32 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 72453 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jun 2011 09:31:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 72445 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jun 2011 09:31:32 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:31:32 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [82.71.204.226] (HELO cpanelsmarthost2.zen.co.uk) (82.71.204.226) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:31:23 +0000 Received: from [82.71.204.9] (helo=zencphosting06.zen.co.uk) by cpanelsmarthost2.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSQid-00083H-8e for general@incubator.apache.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:31:03 +0000 Received: from 5e0715dd.bb.sky.com ([94.7.21.221] helo=[192.168.0.4]) by zencphosting06.zen.co.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSQid-00026k-4L for general@incubator.apache.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:31:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4DE8A9D4.2070200@apache.org> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:31:00 +0100 From: Ross Gardler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal References: <4DE65D8F.8060002@oracle.com> <4DE84FD5.7040706@cnu.edu> In-Reply-To: <4DE84FD5.7040706@cnu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - zencphosting06.zen.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apache.org X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 03/06/2011 04:07, James Kosin wrote: > (2) The licensing is also an issue, and a serious one at that. When a > project goes into Apache the entire project needs to be signed over by > all supporters and all code either signed over by all the copyright > holders or the copy-protected code removed. Which may lead to an > unusable project... if everyone doesn't agree to the terms of the > transfer. And yes, it means all parties that hold a stake in the software. This is not the case. Oracle owns all copyright in contributions to date and they have already signed the grant to allow Apache to sublicence it. The grant is identical to the one all other projects coming in sign, see http://www.apache.org/licenses/proposed/software-grant.txt If there are dependencies that Oracle do not own these need to be addressed on a case by case basis. That is part of the incubation process. It would be helpful if the proposal identified what licence incompatibilities there are, this has been requested and promised in another thread. The incubator is experieced with dealing with these issues once clearly identified. Future contributions are made under the standard Apache CLA which grants a licence allowing the ASF to relicence the copyrighted material. Copyright remains with the original contributor. Ross --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org