Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2E206ED1 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 22:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 92131 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jun 2011 22:07:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 91945 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jun 2011 22:07:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 91936 invoked by uid 99); 5 Jun 2011 22:07:09 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:07:09 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [82.71.204.226] (HELO cpanelsmarthost2.zen.co.uk) (82.71.204.226) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:07:01 +0000 Received: from [82.71.204.9] (helo=zencphosting06.zen.co.uk) by cpanelsmarthost2.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QTLSx-0001bc-Ij for general@incubator.apache.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:06:39 +0000 Received: from 94.196.223.105.threembb.co.uk ([94.196.223.105] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by zencphosting06.zen.co.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QTLSw-00083W-So for general@incubator.apache.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 23:06:39 +0100 Subject: Re: OpenOffice: were are we now? References: From: Ross Gardler Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-438789435 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <21758D45-B080-4049-AE79-0020D9E51047@apache.org> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 22:56:16 +0100 Cc: "general@incubator.apache.org" To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - zencphosting06.zen.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apache.org --Apple-Mail-1-438789435 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) On 5 Jun 2011, at 19:21, Niall Pemberton wrote: >=20 > IMO the only negative thing then about LibreOffice is the copyleft > license - everything else about them is great. When deciding whether > to accept OO we should consider whether that and facilitating BigCos > interests is worth splitting the FOSS community. >=20 > I am considering voting -1 to this proposal for those reasons. I've been considering these same issues. But I've come out with a different v= iew.=20 If Foo decides they can contribute to an Apache Licensed OO.o but not a copy= left LO then I'd rather have Foo contribute.=20 This does not force a split in the community. The copyleft LO can still use = Foo's code. They may choose not to, but it is not our actions, here in the i= ncubator, that force that choice.=20 By facilitating Foo we are also facilitating any number of other businesses,= large and small. Permissively minded and copyleft (not all copyleft minded f= olk, true). I've been ready to vote for a while, but I do think we need to give TDF/LO f= olk more time. Deciding to accept this code (for me) is easier than them dec= iding whether to sign up as initial committers or not.=20 Ross >=20 > Niall >=20 >=20 >> I saw there is a lot of support for this proposal and the initial >> committers list has grown immense in just a few days. There is already >> a good amount of mentors and I will add myself too. Code grant seems >> to be OK and all the other entry criterias seem to be taken. If the >> would vote would be today, I would vote +1 clearly, because everything >> we want in the Incubator seem to be solved. >>=20 >> Again are we able to vote on the podling? If no, please specifiy why? >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Christian >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-438789435--