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Subject: Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice
From: Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com>
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On Jun 5, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Keith Curtis wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Ralph Goers =
<ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Please, before you post here could you get some understanding of the =
ASF?  The Apache Software Foundation doesn't "pick" anything.
>=20
> I realize that everyone makes their own choice, it just seems that
> Java is the dominant language. Whereas it is being phased out of
> LibreOffice.
>=20
>> All we care about is that you can build a community and that your =
code is released under the Apache license.
>=20
> It seems some want more than that, because they also don't want it to
> be relicensed and made GPL later. The Apache license doesn't say
> anything about it, so saying you just want the Apache license does not
> seem totally true.

We don't care what users do with our software.  Those who are smart and =
create proprietary products with it contribute back because they don't =
want to maintain a proprietary fork, but we don't care if they don't..  =
They are happy to extend it with their own proprietary stuff and we are =
fine with that.
>=20
>>=20
>> As for the "support of IBM" you mentioned in another email, I almost =
fell over laughing.
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> There are a number of people being paid by IBM on this list who are
> involved with this OO effort.

So what? They are here as individuals. I get paid by an employer too. =
Although I take their interests into account I am not bound by them.

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> I read your stuff. I find it paradoxical that the Apache org claims to
> be pragmatic, yet insists on the Apache license + no relicensing.

What are you talking about? You can relicense to your hearts content. =
You just can't contribute it back under some other license otherwise =
user's couldn't use it and then relicense it.  If you can't grasp that =
concept then there really is no point to further discussion. =20

Ralph


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