Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0895E69BA for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:12:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 48610 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jun 2011 09:12:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 48433 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jun 2011 09:12:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 48421 invoked by uid 99); 7 Jun 2011 09:12:33 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 09:12:33 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RFC_ABUSE_POST,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of netsroth@googlemail.com designates 209.85.214.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.47] (HELO mail-bw0-f47.google.com) (209.85.214.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 09:12:25 +0000 Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so4709731bwz.6 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 02:12:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:x-mailer:x-accept-language:x-location:user-agent; bh=VVHQG18+tczrJHtwJl638mdTGuOOFcXRb1bFC+wtIHc=; b=Cip4GETq8iL8IgDCVHCISxLkTXaorztKqkhuVtqDMMn9ect2kapCLcU7XbNEa90fAK KjQWnDfJdmBru+YpsgboMG6JPqo54PTvQ63ocqdyl+t0p2U9iF4GXr12b6Hc4Ff+XxFN EO6rMkYl/AFzN+5tbplgdSdEHHBhg4veKTdLM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-mailer :x-accept-language:x-location:user-agent; b=lykmQPeEq+OzqSmh2ea4dhsO2P9CqLkHlxR9rIaAwVxPpCdjplxFQhBEWwx/MONZlP zRFlKLmSjr3/h4eKewagt7BYZEgTSCGnYzdJnMK9uKmmELkcwX0/HC+V6ovHWQOdst06 YV8AydaGGaY4vPCME6+C9WDAIVHs0nT45g5n0= Received: by 10.204.128.90 with SMTP id j26mr1254605bks.116.1307437925650; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 02:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (188-193-15-27-dynip.superkabel.de [188.193.15.27]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q20sm17454bka.5.2011.06.07.02.12.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 07 Jun 2011 02:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Thorsten Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:09:40 +0200 From: Thorsten Behrens To: Simon Brouwer Cc: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant Message-ID: <20110607090940.GR8761@thinkpad.thebehrens.net> References: <4DECDDDD.4060609@lippka.com> <3C7392B0-FADC-42E8-A42C-7E0ACF57F89E@dslextreme.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="soWJpSPh+l8Y6Fy7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Accept-Language: en de X-Location: europe, germany, hamburg User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --soWJpSPh+l8Y6Fy7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Simon Brouwer wrote: > The real question is whether anything essential is missing that Oracle > can't supply and that is very difficult to replace. >=20 If you re-read Christian's mail, the answer to both is "yes". And another remark: given the overall state of the code (~20 years of sedimentation), the full project history is of great value, when one tries to figure out how one specific piece of code came to pass. All of that makes starting off from the hg repo appear desirable ... Cheers, -- Thorsten --soWJpSPh+l8Y6Fy7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk3t6tQACgkQ0atnB9QI2h8FbwCdFk982tFRkOblNEsAGck/QLSw 7T8AnjniL3Z7qKf0635pF9liniVLJJG2 =VZdT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --soWJpSPh+l8Y6Fy7--