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Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 14:29:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Questions for the cheap seats.
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----- Original Message ----

> From: Andy Brown <andy@the-martin-byrd.net>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 5:18:30 PM
> Subject: Questions for the cheap seats.
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> This is my fist post here, been lurking from day one.
> 
> As a  user I am trying to understand somethings that are going on here.
> 
> 1:  LibreOffice was forked due to the way OOo was being handled by  
Sun/Oracle.
> 
> 2: Last month, Oracle stated that OOo would be turned over to  a Foundation to 
>run.
> 
> 3: From indications, there had been some discussions  between Oracle and The 
>Document Foundation.  Not knowing what was said but  it seems that they could 
>not work out the problems.
> 
> 4: Oracle makes a  donation to the Apache Software Foundation.
> 
> Now with this comes some  questions;
> 
> 1: What will happen to OOo's code and trademark if the podling  is not 
>approved?

Dunno.

> 2: What will happen to OOo's code and trademark if the  project does not 
>graduate?

Ditto.

> 3: Since the transfer to the ASF is a grant,  could the ASF transfer, grant, to 
>TDF?

While transferring the trademark to a non-US entity is something a lawyer would 
probably
need to sort out for us, licensing it is a path we've been down before with 
other ASF
marks.  Things like an non-ASF operated conference like Hadoop World are 
permitted by an
MOU between the parties.  Roy or Larry might find a reason to object, but off 
the top of
my head I don't believe there's a substantial reason why we couldn't license the 
OOo
trademark to TDF if things don't work out at the ASF.

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