From general-return-29546-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Mon Jun 6 20:15:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3007D48ED for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 63767 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jun 2011 20:15:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 63433 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jun 2011 20:15:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 63425 invoked by uid 99); 6 Jun 2011 20:15:07 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 20:15:07 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=GAPPY_SUBJECT,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: 76.96.27.211 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of jim@jagunet.com) Received: from [76.96.27.211] (HELO qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.27.211) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 20:15:00 +0000 Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id sjAV1g0021eYJf8ABkEd14; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 20:14:37 +0000 Received: from [192.168.199.10] ([69.251.84.64]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id skDi1g0011PGofZ01kEdds; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 20:14:38 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community? From: Jim Jagielski In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 16:14:37 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4DE7DE06.6080500@documentfoundation.org> <4DEA0543.5020504@documentfoundation.org> <4DEA3C43.7070204@documentfoundation.org> <77FCCD9E-7AE7-4A75-A10B-35EC727F0C6C@jaguNET.com> To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi Jim, all, >>>=20 >>> 2011/6/4 Jim Jagielski : >>>>=20 >>>> On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Personally, I think Oracle's choice had more to do with IBM's >>>>> recommendation, than taxes. >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I've been told that Oracle and TDF *were* in discussions but >>>> that the demands by TDF were sufficiently unpalatable to Oracle >>>> as to prevent any sort of agreement... IBM may have strongly >>>> suggested the ASF as a backup, but we were the runner-up in >>>> a sense. Taxes were not an issue... >>>>=20 >>> I do not see where the demands were "unpalatable": >>>=20 >> = http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/06/06/publishing-our-recommendatio= n-to-oracle/ >>>=20 >>> TDF just refused to pay for anything which is under contract of = Oracle. >>>=20 >>=20 >> Thx for the link. It is good to see TDF opening up regarding >> what their original request was to Oracle. Subsequent discussions, >> of course, are not known but so what. They are moot. For whatever >> reason, Oracle did not think that TDF was the right place. That >> ship has sailed. Time to figure out what to do now. >>=20 >=20 > I asked, and apparently there were no subsequent discussions. But I = agree, > this ship has sailed and I'd be pleased to see this all move into a > podlet... I asked as well as was told otherwise... but again, it's moot.= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org