From general-return-29575-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Mon Jun 6 22:35:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08761419E for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:35:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 58254 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jun 2011 22:35:13 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 58103 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jun 2011 22:35:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 58095 invoked by uid 99); 6 Jun 2011 22:35:13 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 22:35:13 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [212.27.42.2] (HELO smtp2-g21.free.fr) (212.27.42.2) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 22:35:08 +0000 Received: from [192.168.50.45] (unknown [88.166.8.11]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F9D4B0019 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 00:34:40 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <4DED4C31.1020501@apache.org> References: <4DE7625E.10605@apache.org> <7EAB9835-C6DC-4C40-B121-0C36F6CCD038@free.fr> <4DED4C31.1020501@apache.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-45-527488979 Message-Id: From: eric b Subject: Re: Added Education Project idea to the OpenOffice.org Apache incubator Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 00:34:46 +0200 To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) --Apple-Mail-45-527488979 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Ross, Le 6 juin 11 =C3=A0 23:52, Ross Gardler a =C3=A9crit : >> >> Thank you very much, I appreciate a lot :-) >> >> Mentoring is essential in the Education Project, because our main =20 >> goal, >> after create a strong bridge with Educational world, was to =20 >> attract new >> developers. >> >> I'm a bit lost with the Apache Fondation website. Do you have links I >> could read ? > > The community development PMC is at http://community.apache.org the =20= > mailing list is dev@community.apache.org > I bookmarked them, thanks ! Anyway, I'll probably subscribe to the =20 dev@ list, and present myself soon. > Most of our activity is on GSoC, EducOOo applied, but for some reason we were not accepted by Google. =20 To be honest, I suspect something wrong, or worse on Google side. =3D> the draft is here : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/GSoC2011 > but we do have the occasional person going through our programme =20 > independently. We'd like to step that up a gear, but haven't had a =20 > great deal of success. If we can, we'll share our know-how. Nevertheless, I must recognize =20 it is difficult for us, too, but we are lucky with some students who =20 did a great work. See our welcome students : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/=20 WelcomeStudents > Maybe your existing work will finally help us realise that. > Would be great to share and improve :-) I'll try to make it short : everything is shared online on our wiki =20 (most of the time). The most recent Google SoC I mentored was last =20 year, were I mentored Michal Spiziak : See : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/User:MSpisiak + http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/ImproveMathEquationEditor/=20 Baseline_AlignmentEquations and: http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/ImproveMathEquationEditor In fact I mentored (partialy) a second student, Jonas Finnemans =20 Jensen, with Fridrich Strba See : http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ooo-build/SummerOfCode/=20= 2010/Jonas The previous Soc were in 2006 with Pierre de Filippis. It was my =20 first participation, and we were at the beginning og the Aqua port of =20= OpenOffice.org (I was the project Lead), so not much code has been =20 written, but there as good excuses, discovering the beast. You can =20 find some traces here : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/=20 MacOSX:_Complete_User_Interface_respecting_Aqua_Human_Interface_Guidelin=20= es , but I can find more information if you need it. In 2007, yet for the native Mac OS X port, I mentored Ismael Merzaq: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Log_Mac_Meeting_20th_April_2007 Was more productive. See http://lebasket.free.fr/blog/ But that's not all. We use to work with students, and their schools, =20= and we try to explain how we hacked the code online (yet on the =20 wiki). Important : the OpenOffice.org developers often helped us, and =20= they had a big role in the story too. More information on our list of schools who participated is available =20= here -> http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/WelcomeStudents The features are proposed by teachers, and when everybody agrees, we =20 implement what we can. Some examples : New Start Center : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/=20 NewStartCenterBehavior Toolbars and levels : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/=20 ToolbarsAndUserLevel New cursors : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/AddNewCursors Protected preferences : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/=20 PasswordProtectedPreferences (the page has been seen more than =20 27,000 times ... ) + Online ClassRooms http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/ClassRooms and so on Other features : the annotation mode, made by students from Ecole =20 Centrale Nantes, and reverserd to OpenOffice.org As you can see, the list is very long, but we really can do a lot =20 with schools, and the Education Project is really a good compromise =20 to introduce FOSS. Last but not least, I have seen some valuable developers join the =20 list on the incubator page, and I'm confident they will probably =20 contribute too :-) Regards, Eric Bachard --=20 q=C9=94=E1=B4=89=C9=B9=C9=99 Education Project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news --Apple-Mail-45-527488979--