Cmon Joe, Simon's PoV has been clear from his tweets,
unless he has changed his mind... If I am mis-representing
his stance, Simon's a big boy and can tell me where I'm
wrong and I'll admit I was wrong. Does he say that *both*
TDF and the ASF has the opportunity? No, just the ASF.
Maybe that is a nit, but of such nits confusion arises.
On Jun 3, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> Cmon Jim, he wrote a lengthy monologue which spelled
> out his position. As I read it, we could license
> the OpenOffice trademark to the Document Foundation
> for, as Simon put it, "business as usual" distributions.
> If we wanted to we could specify a time/date/event
> upon which that license terminates, and the "new"
> stuff going on at the ASF would be distributing code
> under the mark.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com>
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Sent: Fri, June 3, 2011 1:58:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the
> Community?
>>
>>
>> On Jun 3, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 3 Jun 2011, at 17:52, Ian Lynch wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Florian,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I do see with great concern is the need for a second project to be set-up
>>>>> at Apache or any other entity.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thing is that this is done, Oracle didn't and won't now give the IP to any
>>>> other foundation. So we are where we are.
>>>
>>> We may be where we are, but we collectively have the opportunity to
>> collaborate once Oracle has gone - that's what "open" means. "My way or the
>> highway" talk - from any side - is detestable. ASF has the opportunity to
>> reject the bait to head down the path of ideological conflict, choose a
>> conciliatory path that respects the existing community and especially to use
>> the trademark (which is the only actual asset being transferred) for everyone's
>> good.
>>>
>>
>> Let's be honest: by "collaborate" you mean have the ASF simply
>> xfer the code and the trademark to TDF and walk away... At least,
>> that is the strong impression you give. Please correct me if I'm
>> wrong.
>>
>>
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