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From Tom White <tomwh...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Bigtop for the Apache Incubator
Date Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:13:46 GMT
Steve,

Thanks for signing up.

Bigtop should not maintain branches or patchsets on top of upstream
projects. Any bugs or compatibility problems that are found will need
to be resolved in the upstream projects and then released in those
projects. This makes things harder for Bigtop, but, like you, I hope
having committers from the upstream projects involved in Bigtop will
give projects further impetus to make releases in a timely manner.

Cheers,
Tom

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Steve Loughran <stevel@apache.org> wrote:
> I've added more on the limitations of the current process (not synchronised
> releases, not enough automated testing on multiple-host clusters), and on a
> risk of the project: the upstream projects need to care about and work on
> more synchronized releases.
>
> Cloudera managed to address that problem by patching their forks of the
> apache projects, then push back the patches by way of JIRA patches. Bigtop
> should not get into the game of having its own branches of any of the ASF
> projects, instead it should focus on getting its changes into trunk of the
> various projects SVN trees, and on having near-synchronized releases of the
> various projects
>
> That requires
>  -engagement from the committer teams to get patches in. Having committers
> from the relevant projects in the BigTop project would address this.
>  -support from the PMCs to do releases on a regular schedule. That's hard,
> but something like a six-monthly schedule for the big projects with the up
> and coming projects releasing in a proper factor of that timescale (3, 2, 1
> month), could help.
>
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