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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?
Date Sun, 05 Jun 2011 18:39:48 GMT
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 14:19, Florian Effenberger
<> wrote:
> Hi,
> Greg Stein wrote on 2011-06-05 20.03:
>>> That point has been repeaded over and over again, but basically you are
>>> saying everyone "Do not set up your own foundation at all, we alreadyh
>>> have
>>> enough."
>> I don't know that Robert B-D said that, or anybody else. *I* certainly
>> said it, and strongly believe it. But that's just me :-)
> so, why don't the ASF, the Mozilla Foundation, the Eclipse Foundation and
> the GNOME Foundation unite? :-)

Different goals.

I actually helped in setting up the Eclipse Foundation :-P (and the
Python Software Foundation, for that matter)

MoFo exists to own MoCo. Eclipse is a consortium, rather than a
charity. So of the group, it would be GNOME and ASF that are most
similar. Danese could probably speak to why GNOME Foundation was set
up. I dunno, but I do think its duplication is sad...

> Sorry for the provocative question, I just wanted to state "But we already
> have a foundation" is no good argument for me. However, I think the point

I wasn't trying to make that argument. Just a generic statement about
open source groups thinking it is all cool to have their own
foundation. It isn't. Far from it. Django... Drupal... this that and
the other.

> This might not affect other topics, but honestly, I think the perception of
> what already is in existence is not clear enough for many parties on this
> list. :-) Hope I could shed some light on it...

You very much did. Thank you!


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