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From Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal
Date Thu, 02 Jun 2011 23:18:52 GMT
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 19:06, Steve Loughran <stevel@apache.org> wrote:
> On 01/06/2011 17:33, robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote:
>...
>> have the exactly numbers, but there are significant users of the following
>> OpenOffice derivatives:
>>
>> - LibreOffice
>> - IBM Lotus Symphony
>> - EuroOffice
>> - BrOffice (which some would say is a derivative of LibreOffice)
>> - RedOffice
>>
>> In all cases there are several overlapping communities:
>>
>> - a community of developers
>> - a community of users
>> - a community of supporters, trainers, consultants, etc.
>>
>> We'll need to work out how these related, and especially which of these
>> community functions are a good fit for an eventual Apache TLP, and which
>> things fit better outside of Apache.  But my recommendation is that we
>> encourage the core development of the editors to occur in Apache, while
>> making it easy, via a modular extension mechanism, a modular install, etc.
>> for others to customize and redistribute as permitted by the Apache 2.0
>> license.
>
> OK, but what about the TDF people. Where do they appear here? Is this

Right at the top of Rob's list: "LibreOffice".

> another donation of a dead brand after the OSS people forked off the project
> and kept it going? Like the donation of Hudson to Eclipse after the Jenkins
> fork?

It isn't "dead" if there is a community to pick it up. Oracle
seemingly doesn't want it, but I'll bet there are plenty of others who
*do*.

>
> I don't trust oracle since the Harmony mess. If they did support the Apache

Doesn't matter whether we trust Oracle or not. We have a signed
software grant. Strictly speaking, we don't need them, and they can't
do anything to us.

Cheers,
-g

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