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From Jochen Wiedmann <>
Subject Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice & LibreOffice)
Date Wed, 08 Jun 2011 07:43:45 GMT
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Norbert Thiebaud <> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Noel J. Bergman <> wrote:
> [...] their downstream code cannot be used.  Hence, the best outcome
> under the current licensing regime is for all core development to be
> done here, and for TDF to be a downstream consumer.
> Just because you choose a particular license that does not make you
> de-facto 'upstream'.

Noel is describing a fact: It there is going to be something like
"upstream", it can only be an ASL licensed OO, not a LGPL'ed LO.

What he misses (as quite a few others do, which is possibly why you
are reacting angry) is a certain amount of sensibility that
acknowledges that this fact is just as likely to cause a total split
between LO and OO. Your reaction only goes to show that this
sensibility is required: Such a split would be the worst thing to
happen and it is something where LO would loose nothing (compared to
the time before the proposal) but would have missed a chance to win.


Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men
will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of

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