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From Benson Margulies <>
Subject Re: Summit Proposal
Date Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:59:54 GMT
A summit meeting presupposed that a relatively small number of
entities have a relatively well-understood agenda.

It cannot work as a forum for 50-odd (!) people to try to find common ground.

Now, what might these entities be? At Apache, I claim that the only
appropriate entity would be an Apache PMC -- or, by a stretch, a PPMC.
The direction of OOo at Apache will be set by the project -- with some
oversight and guidance by the larger Foundation, to be sure.

So it seems to me that this is rather premature. First there has to be
a podling, and then it has to jell into a PPMC with a vision, and only
*then* would it be in a position to summitize.

If the ipmc votes against the podling, we're in novel territory, and
in that case the Foundation itself might indeed have reason to open
discussions with various and sundry.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Greg Stein <> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:31, eric b <> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Le 6 juin 11 à 20:21, Greg Stein a écrit :
>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:18, Alexandro Colorado <>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I'll surrely can make it to the US if needed. OSCON is good, but would
>>>> like
>>>> to know if there will be enough OOo people there to ensure there would be
>>>> an
>>>> useful exchange.
>>> More than zero is better than we have so far :-)
>> Alexandro isnot joking, and pointed a big issue : there will be nobody from
>> OOo represented (I mean the one who put their names on the wiki)
>> Words are missing me (sorry, I'm not a native speaker), but there is
>> something wrong ...
> Oh, I agree that having lots of people meet up is best. But I also
> believe that just *two* people meeting is better than nothing.
> "Critical mass" is great, but I think a lot of people miss the benefit
> of a simple meeting between a couple meeting.
> For example, if you and I met for lunch... wouldn't that be good?
> In some respects, getting 50 people into a room together may be
> shooting yourself in the foot. If I wanted to spend 5 minutes with
> each other person in the room, that would take over 4 hours!! I would
> much rather spend an hour sharing beers with three people, than three
> minutes each with 50 people.
> Cheers,
> -g
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