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From Martin Hollmichel <>
Subject Re: OOo Monetary Donations
Date Thu, 09 Jun 2011 06:27:29 GMT
On 06/09/2011 08:06 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Martin Hollmichel <
>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> time to introduce myself, I'm Martin Hollmichel, contributor to
>> StarOffice/ since 1994, member of the
>> Community Council (CC) until 2010 and also Chair of Team
>> e.V.
>> We founded Team e.V. in 2003 to serve for the items
>> described for the items below. All the funds coming in was agreed to
>> spend under the guidelines of the CC (see
>> ).
>> Until September 2010 the CC represents the community until
>> the TDF initiative started. Since the remaining CC was preparing the
>> "restart" of the Community the surprising move of Oracle happened and
>> Team in behalf of the CC also applied for driving
>> Some of you might also remember the Team OOo was also
>> the initial holder of the trademark in the US.
>> Please understand that we are also got surprised by the announcement
>> last Wednesday and we are currently preparing our point of view in this
>> matter. Generally speaking we are still committed to work with all
>> related parties to initiate and continue the collaborative work on
>> offering our users a stable and useful product. I think the decision to
>> move the project from a "one main sponsor thing" to a "non-profit
>> entity" is a good one. Now we are all called to make the best of it,
> Hope not to initiate another round of intense emails. But my burning
> question is: why the silence period?
> There were a lot of things to move forward in but Team OOo never really got
> a recognition on the lists or any stance on many of the discussions on the
> Marketing lists, and other direction list.
The role of Team in the past was just to be the cash box
of the CC and let the CC do the work and be the voice.
> I remember raising some concerns about that back in November but got
> attacked for even daring to ask, so I didn't insist on questioning Team OOo
> position in the matter.
> Also fellow contributors have been asking for Team OOo about cerrtain
> donation schees that didn't reach their initial goals.
As said above, not the problem of the Team OOo but of the CC. The plan
was to let settle down the dust of the TDF move and re-initiate the CC.
Now the playing field changed again and it becomes quite obvious that
not only re-elections of the CC are required but also a re-write of it's
But we are also hearing the voices for asking Team OOo play a more
central role, e.g. being the link between developers and customers and
professionals. This is something which was terribly missed since years.

>> Martin
>> On 06/08/2011 11:31 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> I started looking around at the OOo website.
>>> I'm not sure if now is the time to bring this up, but at
>> there is a solicitation for
>> funds via three processes.
>>> Here's what the page says:
>>>> Your donation will go directly towards helping this project. Some of the
>> ways in which your funds might be used include:
>>>>      • Hiring independent developers to work with
>>>>      • Paying for participation at trade shows and conferences.
>>>>      • Paying for organization and staff at annual
>> Conference, OOoCon.
>>>>      • Marketing banners, collateral, CDs and brochures.
>>>> Please discuss the tax benefits of donating with your accountant.
>>>> You can make a donation to our primary treasury, Team,
>> e.V. via PayPal or credit card or use bank transfer.
>>>> Or, if you prefer to donate US dolars (USD) via credit card, cheque or
>> money order, you can use use Software In the Public Interest, Inc. (SPI),
>> and simply identify the recipient project,, where indicataed
>> in the instructions SPI provides: SPI Donations for . (SPI
>> does not accept PayPal or wire transfers.)
>>> Clearly there ought to be changes to the page and process when/if the
>> podling happens. This is probably at the ASF Board level... certainly the
>> "hiring developers" part doesn't fit...
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
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