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From Florian Effenberger <>
Subject Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?
Date Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:33:53 GMT

Richard S. Hall wrote on 2011-06-06 16.19:

> However, it seems like we have lost sight of the fact that TDF split the
> community from OOo. Sure, Oracle is the perceived villain and TDF the
> perceived good guy, but it doesn't change the fact that OOo created the
> community in the first place.

wrong perception.

If a vast majority of the community steps away, because the main sponsor 
refuses to talk to them, amongst these community members *all* community 
council members who do not work for the main sponsor, plus nearly all 
other "officials" (i.e. leads or co-leads) from the community, you may 
allow the question who split and who is to blame.

If you don't believe that, feel free to have a look into the mailing 
list archives. And if the people in charge respected the community that 
much as you seem to suggest, then I wonder why the Apache proposal has 
not been discussed with this community in the first place.

So please stop spreading FUD like this. It won't help the further 
discussion here at all and just confirms the perception many of us had 
back in September: Some people simply do not have the slightest clue 
about communities. Or they *do* want to be blind.

As said in my first mail: Do not look into the past. Look into the future.


Florian Effenberger <>
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