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From "William A. Rowe Jr." <>
Subject Re: Proposal for OpenOffice Incubator strategy
Date Fri, 03 Jun 2011 05:20:06 GMT
On 6/2/2011 7:12 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
> This is purely my own thoughts, and there's no doubt room for improvement although I
have run it past a few wise friends before posting it. But I suggest that without this clear
demarcation of "new-project" and "business-as-usual-project" it will be very hard to disentangle
the two sets of needs and fulfil the worthy objective at the start of the proposal, "Both
Oracle and ASF agree that the development community, previously fragmented,
would re-unite under ASF to ensure a stable and long term future for". 

Simon, thank you for sharing these thoughts.  Obviously the project
contributors themselves will have to determine their direction, and
the TDF folk will determine theirs, but this a unique perspective
that community members (broader defn.) would do well to bookmark :)

I've also appreciated Sam's comments on these threads, reiterated
by yourself and others, that the status quo was a liberally licensed
codebase to the select few, along with the free software license to
the masses.  In that sense, adoption of the AL for some reflection or
new superset of OpenOffice doesn't seem at odds with the licensing
'politics' of contributors, as they were already offering their code
to both closed and open ecosystems by virtue of the Sun(Oracle) CCA
which they had signed.  That said, it will be individual choices
which lead to contributions to the ASF, TDF and/or elsewhere.

I can see a role for some LGPL elements of an office suite built for
a copyleft platform, and a purpose for AL elements for cooperative
elements or even other platforms, as a free and non-discriminatory
form of the licenses which Sun(Oracle) previously sold.  Especially
as it relates to document processing, the AL clearly offers the
advantage of broader adoption, and I can't imagine anyone within
the TDF or other OOo communities arguing against free standardization
of free document formats.

I can't yet envision how TDF and ASF based projects will partition
this larger work and community, but I'm reassured by several recent
posts, including yours, that this is likely happen to a net positive
outcome.  Still hoping for some assurance that individuals who happen
to be Oracle employees will not be discouraged from participating on
their own time, should it interest them, and some assurance that the
scope of the non-granted files is not insurmountable on some realistic
timetable for a useful release.

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