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From Henri Yandell <flame...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions
Date Tue, 03 May 2011 15:40:25 GMT
Committer votes happen on the PMC list. There won't be an OGNL PMC -
so I don't see this as losing a power over their own affairs. It's not
a power they begin with.

When OGNL is deemed ready by the Incubator, (ie: Incubator PMC has
voted to graduate it), the Commons PMC would vote to accept the code
(probably in public) and would vote in private to accept the OGNL
committers. For example, if there is a committer who joins OGNL but
then does nothing, I wouldn't expect Commons to grant karma.

In the meantime the addition of committers would presumably be a
proposal by the sponsors on the Incubator PMC list.

[I know there's a lot of assumption of TLP in the Incubator approach,
so I can see how the above seems out of whack with those assumptions]

Hen

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> use commons-user: +1
> put SVN in 'incubator' space: +1
> grant "commons rw: +1 (assuming current OGNL committers agree)
>
> As to a private list, I think the benefit would be the opportunity for
> the OGNL committers to learn how such management happens. Where, for
> example, would committer votes happen? The issue with graduation to
> Commons is what happens after graduation - do they suddenly loose some
> power over their own affairs, e.g. ease of seeing vote threads. So not
> sure the best on this one.
>
> Upayavira
>
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:29 -0700, "Henri Yandell" <flamefew@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Agreed, no need to use the svn location from Commons; though I ask to
>> allow @commons rw access.
>>
>> The committer of the podling would not automatically become PMC
>> members, so I don't think there is a need to setup a private list (or
>> even to consider it a PPMC).
>>
>> Hen
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>> <grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> we could share MLs and also SVN (Sandbox
>> >> would be nice, not?)
>> >
>> > MLs are fine, b/c one would need to change address later, and
>> > searching for pre-graduation threads is more easily.
>> >
>> > For SVN I don't see a benefit. The repos can be moved with less effort
>> > once component is graduated. I would like to avoid to get something
>> > into the sandbox which is not cleared from legal perspective. What, if
>> > OGNL fails in the incubator and we just forget to remove the code from
>> > the sandbox? If its in the incubator part, it is like a tag
>> > saying:"beware"
>> >
>> > I would be +1 on user/dev ML but leave SVN in incubator
>> > Is there a need to create a pmc ML for OGNL to discuss incubation
>> > related matters?
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> >> What Incubator PMCs think about it?
>> >> Simo
>> >>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> >> http://www.99soft.org/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Henri Yandell <flamefew@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> >>> Below is a thread from the Commons Dev list in which I'm recommending
>> >>> that OGNL use the commons dev mailing list and that the svn
>> >>> permissions allow the ognl committers and the commons committers to
>> >>> have read write access.
>> >>>
>> >>>    http://commons.markmail.org/thread/ku3ouuilpiicb5is
>> >>>
>> >>> Is this a concern for anyone?
>> >>>
>> >>> OGNL's target is to graduate into Commons rather than to TLP, so
>> >>> making it act like a TLP seems destined to cause problems.
>> >>>
>> >>> Hen
>> >>>
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>> >
>> >
>> >
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