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From "Upayavira" ...@odoko.co.uk>
Subject Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions
Date Sun, 01 May 2011 21:19:51 GMT
Hi Simone,

My issue (for the commons PMC I guess) is how committer votes will
happen when OGNL graduates.

After graduation, how would one of the current contributors propose a
new committer if they are not themselves on the Commons PMC?

Upayavira

On Sun, 01 May 2011 19:56 +0200, "Simone Tripodi"
<simonetripodi@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Upayavira!!!
> I agree that commons folks can have rw rights, so people are already
> used to co-work in the 'commons way'.
> Moreover, I agreed on joining
> 
> - dev@commons.a.o
> - users@commons.a.o
> - issues@commons.a.o
> - create the private ML where commons PMCs can join.
> 
> Does it make sense?
> Simo
> 
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://www.99soft.org/
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> > use commons-user: +1
> > put SVN in 'incubator' space: +1
> > grant "commons rw: +1 (assuming current OGNL committers agree)
> >
> > As to a private list, I think the benefit would be the opportunity for
> > the OGNL committers to learn how such management happens. Where, for
> > example, would committer votes happen? The issue with graduation to
> > Commons is what happens after graduation - do they suddenly loose some
> > power over their own affairs, e.g. ease of seeing vote threads. So not
> > sure the best on this one.
> >
> > Upayavira
> >
> > On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:29 -0700, "Henri Yandell" <flamefew@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Agreed, no need to use the svn location from Commons; though I ask to
> >> allow @commons rw access.
> >>
> >> The committer of the podling would not automatically become PMC
> >> members, so I don't think there is a need to setup a private list (or
> >> even to consider it a PPMC).
> >>
> >> Hen
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> >> <grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> we could share MLs and also SVN (Sandbox
> >> >> would be nice, not?)
> >> >
> >> > MLs are fine, b/c one would need to change address later, and
> >> > searching for pre-graduation threads is more easily.
> >> >
> >> > For SVN I don't see a benefit. The repos can be moved with less effort
> >> > once component is graduated. I would like to avoid to get something
> >> > into the sandbox which is not cleared from legal perspective. What, if
> >> > OGNL fails in the incubator and we just forget to remove the code from
> >> > the sandbox? If its in the incubator part, it is like a tag
> >> > saying:"beware"
> >> >
> >> > I would be +1 on user/dev ML but leave SVN in incubator
> >> > Is there a need to create a pmc ML for OGNL to discuss incubation
> >> > related matters?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> >> What Incubator PMCs think about it?
> >> >> Simo
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> >> >> http://www.99soft.org/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Henri Yandell <flamefew@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >> >>> Below is a thread from the Commons Dev list in which I'm recommending
> >> >>> that OGNL use the commons dev mailing list and that the svn
> >> >>> permissions allow the ognl committers and the commons committers
to
> >> >>> have read write access.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>    http://commons.markmail.org/thread/ku3ouuilpiicb5is
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Is this a concern for anyone?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> OGNL's target is to graduate into Commons rather than to TLP, so
> >> >>> making it act like a TLP seems destined to cause problems.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hen
> >> >>>
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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