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Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:01:59 +0200
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL
From: Simone Tripodi <simonetripodi@apache.org>
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Hi again guys,
just to follow-up the discussion, OGNL is owned by Marc Andrew
Davidson, that's the original author, that started OGNL development in
the far 1998.
Then, it was moved to OpenSimphony only in the 2004 - later moved to
its own domain.
I'd say that nobody can claim OGNL trademark unless Drew, that has
been included in the Initial Committers list, and has donated OGNL
codebase signing the SoftwareGrant.
Sunds like the proposal is almost ready to be submitted, what do you think?
Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/


On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Phil Steitz <phil.steitz@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/8/11 7:06 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>> I don't recall the Commons PMC saying the project needs to be renamed wh=
en it voted to sponsor this project. =C2=A0If that is necessary I'm sure th=
ey will let the project know.
> We voted to sponsor OGNL. =C2=A0Martin is right that our policy is to
> avoid the cutesy names, favoring descriptive names instead. =C2=A0EL and
> SCXML are two examples of spec-related Commons components whose
> names - conveniently for users - describe what they are. =C2=A0Unless
> there really is a compelling need to change the name from OGNL, it
> should stay as is.
>
> Phil
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Martin Cooper wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Jeremias Maerki <dev@jeremias-maerki.c=
h> wrote:
>>>> I'm sorry that I can't help out but when reading this I thought that
>>>> using the spec name as the project name is probably not ideal. How abo=
ut
>>>> calling it Apache (Commons) Ogranal? Hopefully, this doesn't have any
>>>> strange meaning in some language. Just a thought.
>>> Commons has a policy of using descriptive names. Yes, there are a few
>>> existing projects that don't fit this - ones that were grandfathered
>>> in when the policy was introduced - but it would be better to start
>>> incubation with a name that would meet Commons' criteria rather than
>>> one that will need changing yet again on graduation.
>>>
>>> A lot of people both within and outwith the ASF know the name OGNL, so
>>> unless there's a pressing need, it would make sense to keep it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Martin Cooper
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 08.04.2011 09:26:43 Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>>>> Hi all guys,
>>>>> I'm almost ready to submit a new proposal I'm preparing on Wiki[1] fo=
r
>>>>> Apache OGNL.
>>>>> The idea is importing the OGNL project under the Apache umbrella and,
>>>>> once/if ready, be promoted in Apache Commons - the Commons PMC alread=
y
>>>>> voted to be the Sponsor.
>>>>> All legal issues have been resolved, we have the Champion - Lukasz
>>>>> Lenart - and a great Mentor - Olivier Lamy - what we miss are 2 more
>>>>> mentors... any volunteer? :)
>>>>> It would be nice also if you can provide your feedbacks, once raw the=
 proposal.
>>>>> Many thanks in advance, have a nice day!!!
>>>>> Simo
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OGNLProposal
>>>>>
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeremias Maerki
>>>>
>>>>
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