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From Simone Tripodi <simonetrip...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL
Date Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:17:22 GMT
Hi Upayavira,
thanks, sure, going to do it NOW! :)
Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/



On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> You've certainly answered my questions. I'd suggest you also post this
> info to legal-discuss to close off the thread there, for historical
> reasons at least!
>
> Upayavira
>
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:01 +0200, "Simone Tripodi"
> <simonetripodi@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi again guys,
>> just to follow-up the discussion, OGNL is owned by Marc Andrew
>> Davidson, that's the original author, that started OGNL development in
>> the far 1998.
>> Then, it was moved to OpenSimphony only in the 2004 - later moved to
>> its own domain.
>> I'd say that nobody can claim OGNL trademark unless Drew, that has
>> been included in the Initial Committers list, and has donated OGNL
>> codebase signing the SoftwareGrant.
>> Sunds like the proposal is almost ready to be submitted, what do you
>> think?
>> Simo
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Phil Steitz <phil.steitz@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On 4/8/11 7:06 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>> >> I don't recall the Commons PMC saying the project needs to be renamed when
it voted to sponsor this project.  If that is necessary I'm sure they will let the project
know.
>> > We voted to sponsor OGNL.  Martin is right that our policy is to
>> > avoid the cutesy names, favoring descriptive names instead.  EL and
>> > SCXML are two examples of spec-related Commons components whose
>> > names - conveniently for users - describe what they are.  Unless
>> > there really is a compelling need to change the name from OGNL, it
>> > should stay as is.
>> >
>> > Phil
>> >> Ralph
>> >>
>> >> On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Martin Cooper wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Jeremias Maerki <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch>
wrote:
>> >>>> I'm sorry that I can't help out but when reading this I thought
that
>> >>>> using the spec name as the project name is probably not ideal. How
about
>> >>>> calling it Apache (Commons) Ogranal? Hopefully, this doesn't have
any
>> >>>> strange meaning in some language. Just a thought.
>> >>> Commons has a policy of using descriptive names. Yes, there are a few
>> >>> existing projects that don't fit this - ones that were grandfathered
>> >>> in when the policy was introduced - but it would be better to start
>> >>> incubation with a name that would meet Commons' criteria rather than
>> >>> one that will need changing yet again on graduation.
>> >>>
>> >>> A lot of people both within and outwith the ASF know the name OGNL,
so
>> >>> unless there's a pressing need, it would make sense to keep it.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Martin Cooper
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 08.04.2011 09:26:43 Simone Tripodi wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi all guys,
>> >>>>> I'm almost ready to submit a new proposal I'm preparing on Wiki[1]
for
>> >>>>> Apache OGNL.
>> >>>>> The idea is importing the OGNL project under the Apache umbrella
and,
>> >>>>> once/if ready, be promoted in Apache Commons - the Commons PMC
already
>> >>>>> voted to be the Sponsor.
>> >>>>> All legal issues have been resolved, we have the Champion -
Lukasz
>> >>>>> Lenart - and a great Mentor - Olivier Lamy - what we miss are
2 more
>> >>>>> mentors... any volunteer? :)
>> >>>>> It would be nice also if you can provide your feedbacks, once
raw the proposal.
>> >>>>> Many thanks in advance, have a nice day!!!
>> >>>>> Simo
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OGNLProposal
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> >>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jeremias Maerki
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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