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From Jean-Baptiste Onofré ...@nanthrax.net>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL
Date Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:02:46 GMT
Hi Simone,

agree, the proposal is ready to be submitted.

Regards
JB

On 04/13/2011 04:01 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote:
> Hi again guys,
> just to follow-up the discussion, OGNL is owned by Marc Andrew
> Davidson, that's the original author, that started OGNL development in
> the far 1998.
> Then, it was moved to OpenSimphony only in the 2004 - later moved to
> its own domain.
> I'd say that nobody can claim OGNL trademark unless Drew, that has
> been included in the Initial Committers list, and has donated OGNL
> codebase signing the SoftwareGrant.
> Sunds like the proposal is almost ready to be submitted, what do you think?
> Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Phil Steitz<phil.steitz@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> On 4/8/11 7:06 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>> I don't recall the Commons PMC saying the project needs to be renamed when it
voted to sponsor this project.  If that is necessary I'm sure they will let the project know.
>> We voted to sponsor OGNL.  Martin is right that our policy is to
>> avoid the cutesy names, favoring descriptive names instead.  EL and
>> SCXML are two examples of spec-related Commons components whose
>> names - conveniently for users - describe what they are.  Unless
>> there really is a compelling need to change the name from OGNL, it
>> should stay as is.
>>
>> Phil
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Martin Cooper wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Jeremias Maerki<dev@jeremias-maerki.ch>
 wrote:
>>>>> I'm sorry that I can't help out but when reading this I thought that
>>>>> using the spec name as the project name is probably not ideal. How about
>>>>> calling it Apache (Commons) Ogranal? Hopefully, this doesn't have any
>>>>> strange meaning in some language. Just a thought.
>>>> Commons has a policy of using descriptive names. Yes, there are a few
>>>> existing projects that don't fit this - ones that were grandfathered
>>>> in when the policy was introduced - but it would be better to start
>>>> incubation with a name that would meet Commons' criteria rather than
>>>> one that will need changing yet again on graduation.
>>>>
>>>> A lot of people both within and outwith the ASF know the name OGNL, so
>>>> unless there's a pressing need, it would make sense to keep it.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Martin Cooper
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 08.04.2011 09:26:43 Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all guys,
>>>>>> I'm almost ready to submit a new proposal I'm preparing on Wiki[1]
for
>>>>>> Apache OGNL.
>>>>>> The idea is importing the OGNL project under the Apache umbrella
and,
>>>>>> once/if ready, be promoted in Apache Commons - the Commons PMC already
>>>>>> voted to be the Sponsor.
>>>>>> All legal issues have been resolved, we have the Champion - Lukasz
>>>>>> Lenart - and a great Mentor - Olivier Lamy - what we miss are 2 more
>>>>>> mentors... any volunteer? :)
>>>>>> It would be nice also if you can provide your feedbacks, once raw
the proposal.
>>>>>> Many thanks in advance, have a nice day!!!
>>>>>> Simo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OGNLProposal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeremias Maerki
>>>>>
>>>>>
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