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From "Upayavira" ...@odoko.co.uk>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL
Date Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:32:15 GMT
You've certainly answered my questions. I'd suggest you also post this
info to legal-discuss to close off the thread there, for historical
reasons at least!

Upayavira

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:01 +0200, "Simone Tripodi"
<simonetripodi@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi again guys,
> just to follow-up the discussion, OGNL is owned by Marc Andrew
> Davidson, that's the original author, that started OGNL development in
> the far 1998.
> Then, it was moved to OpenSimphony only in the 2004 - later moved to
> its own domain.
> I'd say that nobody can claim OGNL trademark unless Drew, that has
> been included in the Initial Committers list, and has donated OGNL
> codebase signing the SoftwareGrant.
> Sunds like the proposal is almost ready to be submitted, what do you
> think?
> Simo
> 
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://www.99soft.org/
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Phil Steitz <phil.steitz@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On 4/8/11 7:06 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> >> I don't recall the Commons PMC saying the project needs to be renamed when it
voted to sponsor this project.  If that is necessary I'm sure they will let the project know.
> > We voted to sponsor OGNL.  Martin is right that our policy is to
> > avoid the cutesy names, favoring descriptive names instead.  EL and
> > SCXML are two examples of spec-related Commons components whose
> > names - conveniently for users - describe what they are.  Unless
> > there really is a compelling need to change the name from OGNL, it
> > should stay as is.
> >
> > Phil
> >> Ralph
> >>
> >> On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Martin Cooper wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Jeremias Maerki <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch>
wrote:
> >>>> I'm sorry that I can't help out but when reading this I thought that
> >>>> using the spec name as the project name is probably not ideal. How about
> >>>> calling it Apache (Commons) Ogranal? Hopefully, this doesn't have any
> >>>> strange meaning in some language. Just a thought.
> >>> Commons has a policy of using descriptive names. Yes, there are a few
> >>> existing projects that don't fit this - ones that were grandfathered
> >>> in when the policy was introduced - but it would be better to start
> >>> incubation with a name that would meet Commons' criteria rather than
> >>> one that will need changing yet again on graduation.
> >>>
> >>> A lot of people both within and outwith the ASF know the name OGNL, so
> >>> unless there's a pressing need, it would make sense to keep it.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Martin Cooper
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 08.04.2011 09:26:43 Simone Tripodi wrote:
> >>>>> Hi all guys,
> >>>>> I'm almost ready to submit a new proposal I'm preparing on Wiki[1]
for
> >>>>> Apache OGNL.
> >>>>> The idea is importing the OGNL project under the Apache umbrella
and,
> >>>>> once/if ready, be promoted in Apache Commons - the Commons PMC already
> >>>>> voted to be the Sponsor.
> >>>>> All legal issues have been resolved, we have the Champion - Lukasz
> >>>>> Lenart - and a great Mentor - Olivier Lamy - what we miss are 2
more
> >>>>> mentors... any volunteer? :)
> >>>>> It would be nice also if you can provide your feedbacks, once raw
the proposal.
> >>>>> Many thanks in advance, have a nice day!!!
> >>>>> Simo
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OGNLProposal
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> >>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeremias Maerki
> >>>>
> >>>>
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