Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 55074 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2011 03:30:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Mar 2011 03:30:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 13061 invoked by uid 500); 3 Mar 2011 03:30:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 12239 invoked by uid 500); 3 Mar 2011 03:30:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 12172 invoked by uid 99); 3 Mar 2011 03:30:08 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 03:30:08 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of sebbaz@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.47] (HELO mail-qw0-f47.google.com) (209.85.216.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 03:30:05 +0000 Received: by qwi2 with SMTP id 2so554000qwi.6 for ; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 19:29:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ohj17h03HLNcPsjuhQt5++HPruQH9v3z5S9GsmFuT+Y=; b=I7ZuXbwf3bs3ZtBRGrIHGF5rnhyB9J3OAgD48fiDf/vMw2S6oaqjLDGozMqftZLJgp WwwcUZbS3b+EpZfLOFwidtEngTZQARbG/HTy2YfXLGahV0uQaU/mih6lb9MKGYBlx9/h VSWgs8ztB1JYmnaz07UmMP/WPvfbQOQYBa5Kg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NeTMeEfhB6zEyelnxKkgy/deXGIB5b9FbgPkYGi+kk6BPhsdfg8k3EWN9ktUO2kMaq QdrP7N4HtqQO2sfm8E69G9VsND4sVlry445SXIKecDhtJ8kaG8g6Vy0zJUatFxezWRR8 sDJgrAuaGWH8zPwPHYc64zyZr11xrijdlRsXg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.231.9 with SMTP id jo9mr492725qcb.201.1299122984875; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 19:29:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.98.129 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:29:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20110302063929.GA59740@igg.local> <20110302233412.GA62135@igg.local> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 03:29:44 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Graduated projects please tidy up: abdera aries buildr chemistry esme oodt river shiro thrift uima From: sebb To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3 March 2011 03:19, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > Hmmm, > > I'd like to question this: why would the Incubator ever delete archives o= f releases? We have active links on the TLP for e.g., OODT and for e.g., Ti= ka that point users to our Incubator releases that are still active Incubat= or links. I realize that archive.apache.org keeps a copy, but following you= r logic, why would any TLP maintain its own dist area? It could just point = to the archives? Yes, that's what it should do for non-current releases. > In my mind, it's perfectly acceptable to keep releases that are made in I= ncubator ville on the Incubator dist page -- that's not just a requirement = for active Incubator projects, it should be true even when they graduate. The dist area should be for the current version(s) only. Once a new release has been out a short while, any superseded releases should be deleted from dist. The download page can point to archives.a.o for individual older releases, or can just contain a generic link to archive.a.o. > Cheers, > Chris > > On Mar 2, 2011, at 4:34 PM, David Crossley wrote: > >> Les Hazlewood wrote: >>> >>> For Shiro (which is now a TLP), I just moved the artifacts out of >>> /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator/shiro and then deleted the shiro >>> directory. >> >> Remember that stuff is automatically copied to archives: >> http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/shiro/ >> http://archive.apache.org/dist/shiro/ >> >> The docs do explain that, but perhaps need enhancement. >> >> So for example at Forrest, our download page and the fronts-piece >> of our dist mirrors, refers to our archives. No need to specially >> save everything. >> >> I reckon that Shiro's old incubator release does not need >> to be copied to */dist/shiro/ >> I wonder if they should only be at archive.a.o/dist/incubator/shiro/ >> >>> Is there anything else required for Shiro? =A0Aside from >>> this issue, I'm not aware of any other migration issues. >> >> Okay according to Clutch. >> >> Glancing at the Shiro status page, it could use a final >> News item. The links to the Reports are missing the final one. >> >> Congratulations. >> >> -David >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Senior Computer Scientist > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov > WWW: =A0 http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org