incubator-general mailing list archives

Site index · List index
Message view « Date » · « Thread »
Top « Date » · « Thread »
From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject Re: Graduated projects please tidy up: abdera aries buildr chemistry esme oodt river shiro thrift uima
Date Fri, 04 Mar 2011 03:23:10 GMT
Hi Niall,

>> [...]
>> Dist is the active archive. The archive.apache.org is the "deep archive". Both should
exist, and both should have a copy of the data.
>> 
> 
> Dist isn't an archive - its a distribution area archive.apache.org is
> the archive.

I respectfully disagree.

Cheers,
Chris

> 
> Niall
> 
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>> 
>>> 
>>> Niall
>>> 
>>>>> Keeping the dist area tidy with only current releases
>>>>> means that this huge ASF-wide content is mirrored efficiently.
>>>> 
>>>> At what cost? In my mind, there is a subtle point lost here.
>>>> 
>>>> Archiving is good and it has to do with mirroring. What i'm advocating for
is preservation. We should never delete the original copy dists for *any project*. It creates
disconnects between the world-wide mirroring system that is called email, and locally caching
things, and archiving and cataloging links.
>>>> 
>>>> The cost of invalidating those negates a ton of the savings that you're proposing.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, we don't mirror archive.a.o via that dist system.
>>>> 
>>>> Gotcha.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just had a look at Tika download page. It does as i suggested
>>>>> earlier: They link to
>>>>> archive.apache.org/dist/tika/
>>>>> for old releases
>>>>> and to
>>>>> archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/tika/
>>>>> for the older incubator releases.
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah I think we updated that. I couldn't remember if we actually directly
linked to incubator.a.o. I think I might have even updated that when I noticed the links were
broke on the site.
>>>> 
>>>> Regardless, we should haven't to update it it. I'm proposing that's *it's
a good thing* to have an original + 1 copy from a reliability and software preservation perspective.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>> WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> 
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>> 
>> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> 


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org


Mime
View raw message