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From dsh <daniel.hais...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project
Date Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:41:35 GMT
There as well existed an open source project called Howl in 2005 or so
which implemented Zeroconf (Apple calls the commercial incarnation
Bonjour).

See: http://www.porchdogsoft.com/ -> About

Howl is available in the FreeBSD ports collection and on SF.NET

 -> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/net/howl/pkg-descr
 -> http://sourceforge.net/projects/howl/

Cheers
Daniel

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com> wrote:
> On Mar 9, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Alan Gates wrote:
>
>> Some context here for you.  Howl is a project that was recently accepted to the
Incubator.  It is a proposed new component in the Hadoop eco system.  There is significant
concern in the Incubator that this will clash with the name of the Howl OW2 project (http://howl.ow2.org/)
and thus cause Apache legal troubles.  The relevant email threads can be seen at http://tinyurl.com/5w7y9p9
and http://tinyurl.com/4t7jjt9.  As can be seen in the email threads some are concerned about
legal issue while some feel that the use of the name is acceptable.
>>
>> There is interest in the team proposing Howl to keep the name since the name has
already been in use for 9 months in the Hadoop, Pig, and Hive communities (without confusion
or legal issues I might add).  However, we would like to get legal's input on whether using
Howl for this project name presents a risk for Apache.  Thanks.
>
> It isn't just a legal issue.  Generally speaking, it is rude to use a
> product name for an open source project when that name is already in
> use by another open source project (and in this case has been in use
> since 2004).  What's more, their use of the name actually makes sense.
> We try not to be rude to OW, and they try not to be rude to us.
>
> So, the answer from this board member is no, you will not be allowed
> to use that name at Apache.  Even if the incubator accepted it, the
> board would insist on a change later on because it isn't a nice thing
> to do to others.  9 months discussion in Hadoop/Pig/Hive is irrelevant
> when compared to seven years of actual product releases by that other
> project.
>
> ....Roy
>
>
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