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From Niall Pemberton <niall.pember...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Graduated projects please tidy up: abdera aries buildr chemistry esme oodt river shiro thrift uima
Date Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:24:55 GMT
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
<chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Hi Niall,
>
>>> [...]
>>> Dist is the active archive. The archive.apache.org is the "deep archive". Both
should exist, and both should have a copy of the data.
>>>
>>
>> Dist isn't an archive - its a distribution area archive.apache.org is
>> the archive.
>
> I respectfully disagree.

:)

Well, then the best thing is to take it up on infra@ and persuade them
to change policy.

Niall

> Cheers,
> Chris
>
>>
>> Niall
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Niall
>>>>
>>>>>> Keeping the dist area tidy with only current releases
>>>>>> means that this huge ASF-wide content is mirrored efficiently.
>>>>>
>>>>> At what cost? In my mind, there is a subtle point lost here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Archiving is good and it has to do with mirroring. What i'm advocating
for is preservation. We should never delete the original copy dists for *any project*. It
creates disconnects between the world-wide mirroring system that is called email, and locally
caching things, and archiving and cataloging links.
>>>>>
>>>>> The cost of invalidating those negates a ton of the savings that you're
proposing.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, we don't mirror archive.a.o via that dist system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gotcha.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just had a look at Tika download page. It does as i suggested
>>>>>> earlier: They link to
>>>>>> archive.apache.org/dist/tika/
>>>>>> for old releases
>>>>>> and to
>>>>>> archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/tika/
>>>>>> for the older incubator releases.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah I think we updated that. I couldn't remember if we actually directly
linked to incubator.a.o. I think I might have even updated that when I noticed the links were
broke on the site.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regardless, we should haven't to update it it. I'm proposing that's *it's
a good thing* to have an original + 1 copy from a reliability and software preservation perspective.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
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>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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