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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:25:11 +0000
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Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1
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On 6 January 2011 16:10, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am happy to provide clear-text versions of KEYS and CHANGES.txt if
> that is what you require. =A0I've just never seen any other Apache
> project that did that.

All Apache releases require pgp signatures, and the KEYS file must
contain the key necessary to validate the signature.

The KEYS file should be referenced from the download page, alongside
the sig and hash files.

For example:

http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi

The key should also be added to a pgp key server.

> As for whether there should be separate source and binary
> distributions, bear in mind that a binary-only distribution of
> ManifoldCF makes little sense. =A0ManifoldCF is unusual in that it
> distributes a number of connectors which require third-party libraries
> in order to compile. =A0We do not distribute those libraries for
> licensing reasons. =A0Conditional compilation is used to build those
> connectors for which you supply the right bits. =A0The binary part thus
> includes only the framework, and those connectors which depend only on
> open-source code. =A0This is relatively limited but makes it faster and
> easier for someone to start things up right out of the box.
>
> So, effectively, you are asking us to not have a binary distribution
> in order to save on space. =A0Is this a firm request, or is this just
> unhappiness at the download time? =A0FWIW, I personally don't think such
> a build will save a great deal tar/zip space, but I can certainly
> check and get back to you.

AIUI there must be a source distribution; the binary distribution is option=
al.

The consumer should not be forced to download the binary distribution
in order to get the source.

> Karl
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> Hi Karl,
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2011, at 7:14 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
>>
>>> Answering on Grant's behalf, the ManifoldCF artifact contains both
>>> source and binary, and the KEYS and CHANGES.txt files are within the
>>> artifact, as seems to be standard Apache practice.
>>
>> Well I won't say it's standard Apache practice in my experience. I've ma=
de probably over a dozen releases in about 3+ different Apache projects so =
far (Nutch, Tika, SIS) and I've always put out a plain-text version of CHAN=
GES.txt and KEYS alongside the release artifacts. The advantage of doing so=
 is that I don't have to download a 140 MB file before I can check what cha=
nges are part of the release.
>>
>> Also one of the things that Clutch checks in the Incubator is that there=
 is a KEYS file in the distribution area, separate of the release artifacts=
. So, I would say it should be there.
>>
>>> =A0You just need to
>>> untar/unzip it.
>>
>> Thanks for the pointer. I'd like to see the source and binary tarballs s=
eparated. Strictly speaking, you really only need a source release, but it'=
s up to you guys I think if you want to provide a binary one too. The advan=
tage is that the source release is likely much smaller I'm guessing than th=
e binary.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
>>> <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>> Hi Grant,
>>>>
>>>> Is this a source or binary release? How are you guys making the releas=
e? Using Ant or Maven?
>>>>
>>>> Can you guys provide a KEYS and CHANGES.txt file as part of the releas=
e artifacts?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Apache ManifoldCF community has voted to release our first set of=
 artifacts and now would like an Incubator vote. =A0Since this is our first=
 release, extra attention to detail is appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can find the artifacts at http://people.apache.org/~kwright/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Grant
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
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>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: =A0 http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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