Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 68692 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2011 11:37:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Jan 2011 11:37:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 14342 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jan 2011 11:37:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 14021 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jan 2011 11:37:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 14012 invoked by uid 99); 8 Jan 2011 11:37:20 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:37:20 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RFC_ABUSE_POST,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of ant.elder@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.161.175] (HELO mail-gx0-f175.google.com) (209.85.161.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:37:14 +0000 Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so7711935gxk.6 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 03:36:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:reply-to:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iKF9v2nQI/ycT9uhH+4WkI92Xjt9rK+OSWiYEzy4nFk=; b=BoHDBff62IDlZfZ4TxoBbH8nhKs2mVb3wlnjNQn1KsER7RU50VYUFu/g7lV3Tiy4wi Jju0/2Y/G0LnYLArsA1IcXvK4+EZWOTLfpYXJFKjN+DZuxninvgwIMc7HNI1Be1U8N/0 jO2xHcOy1TkiU7m4q64s9MDt0B2J1hyYC6u7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=lQogryN4djyHn2SfVTN2rsHLwHZIWjWBITDtnq1Tq77xz+MsbXXNTnoyxZ7xB6O9tz TmZZQEoN5dRjjGYSdJFueAzzTTZW+J/GrGDtKb6VAEUNJPDJdVrxp1H5mHHld9+5YQZc RR6dN7Ve6Qi9MO9Dh0H83y4vZaFPzov+Z3tGw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.218.16 with SMTP id q16mr25650896ybg.404.1294486612927; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 03:36:52 -0800 (PST) Sender: ant.elder@gmail.com Reply-To: antelder@apache.org Received: by 10.150.190.20 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 03:36:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20110107082919.GA32142@igg.local> <784814.90857.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 11:36:52 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: m8u5N2Js80HnaITeh8HUZ0eW0zc Message-ID: Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1 From: ant elder To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That NOTICE file still contains additional text about Jetty and HSQLDB, why is that needed? The Apache License section 4d describes what must be included in the NOTICE and AIUI it says you only need to include in your NOTICE the notices from Jetty and HSQLDB if you distribute derivitave works of them. Thats not what you're doing you are distributing copies of the them not Derivative Works so nothing is needed in your NOTICE file. ...ant On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Karl Wright wrote: > Rather than spin a whole new RC and upload it, which takes me two > hours, I've attached the revised proposed NOTICE and LICENSE here, so > people can comment directly. > > Karl > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Karl Wright wrote: >> The current NOTICE file has exactly what you specify, plus a preamble >> describing components and their licenses. =A0I will remove the preamble >> - it was based on the Solr/Lucene NOTICE which I was told to use as an >> example. >> >> The LICENSE file, on the other hand, should currently have everything >> that's in the NOTICE file in expanded form. =A0If you think I should >> move the preamble to the LICENSE file as well, this would be the time >> to indicate that. =A0Otherwise, the preamble will just be deleted. >> >> Karl >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:06 AM, ant elder wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Karl Wright wrote= : >>> >>>> - I have made no changes to NOTICE and LICENSE, because the incubator >>>> and community advice seemed contradictory. =A0I would like a general >>>> sense of how many people feel that the current NOTICE and LICENSE >>>> files are unacceptable before I make changes. >>> >>> The NOTICE file is still incorrect and includes a lot of unnecessary >>> stuff. Understanding how to do releases with the correct legal files >>> is one of the important parts of incubation and as this is the first >>> release for the poddling i think this needs to be sorted out. >>> >>> For the NOTICE file, start with the following text (between the ---'s): >>> >>> --- >>> Apache ManifestCF >>> Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation >>> >>> This product includes software developed by >>> The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/). >>> --- >>> >>> and then add _nothing_ unless you can find explicit policy documented >>> somewhere in the ASF that says it is required. If someone wants to add >>> something ask for the URL where the requirement is documented. The >>> NOTICE file should only include required notices, the other text thats >>> in the current NOTICE file could go in a README file, see >>> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice >>> >>> For the LICENSE file, it should start with the AL as the current one >>> does, and then include the text for all the other licenses used in the >>> distribution. Those license that are currently in the NOTICE file >>> should be moved to the LICENSE file and then you need to verify that >>> all the 3rd party dependencies in the src and binary distributions are >>> also in the LICENSE files of those distributions. >>> >>> =A0 ...ant >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org