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Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] accept Easyant for incubation
From: Marcel Offermans <marcel.offermans@luminis.nl>
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:31:28 +0100
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Hello Antoine,

For me it's non-controversial. I'd love to see something like this, but =
I'm probably not going to be able to spend a lot of time contributing to =
it. Maybe some OSGi specific parts, especially if we can somehow =
integrate them with Bnd and BndTools.

Greetings, Marcel


On Jan 17, 2011, at 22:25 , Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote:

> Hi,
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> We got no answer concerning Easyant.
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> Does this mean that the proposal is non-controversial and that we =
should move on to a vote ?
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> Regards,
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> Antoine
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> On 1/11/2011 12:28 PM, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote:
>> Hello all,
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>> We'd like to propose Easyant for entry into the ASF incubator.
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>> Easyant is providing a solution for projects who want to use Ant and =
Ivy with a lot of ready-made templates, with the option to customize.
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>> The draft proposal is available at :
>> http://easyant.org/projects/easyant/wiki/ApacheProposal
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>> The Ant project has voted to sponsor the entry of Easyant at the =
Incubator [1].
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>> For your convenience I have pasted this proposal below the email.
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>> Regards,
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>> Antoine
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>> [1] =
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ant-dev/201101.mbox/%3C3A73C5DA-E=
4A2-4CB6-8423-0A985246FA8E@hibnet.org%3E
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>> h1. EasyAnt Proposal
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>> The following presents the proposal for creating a new EasyAnt =
project within the Apache Software Foundation.
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>> h2. Abstract
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>> Easyant is a build system based on Apache Ant and Apache Ivy.
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>> h2. Proposal
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>> EasyAnt goals are :
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>>    * to leverage popularity and flexibility of Ant.
>>    * to integrate Apache Ivy, such that the build system combines a =
ready-to-use dependency manager.
>>    * to simplify standard build types, such as building web =
applications, JARs etc, by providing ready to use builds.
>>    * to provide conventions and guidelines.
>>    * to make plugging-in of fresh functionalities easy as writing =
simple Ant scripts as Easyant plugins.
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>> To still remain adaptable,
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>>    * Though Easyant comes with a lot of conventions, we never lock =
you in.
>>    * Easyant allows you to easily extend existing modules or create =
and use your own modules.
>>    * Easyant makes migration from Ant very simple. Your legacy Ant =
scripts could still be leveraged with Easyant.
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>> h2. Rationale
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>> On the Ivy and Ant mailing list, an often asked question is "Why Ivy =
is not shipped with Ant ?". Ant users (and some opponents) complains =
also about the bootstrapping of an Ant based build system: it is mainly =
about copying an existing one. EasyAnt is intended to response to both =
of these requirements: a prepackaged Ant + Ivy solution with standard =
build script ready to be used.
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>> Also taking inspiration from the success of Apache Maven, EasyAnt is =
adopting the "convention over configuration" principle. Then it could be =
easy to build standard project at least for all commons steps (no more =
need to reinvent the wheel between each projects). The "common" part =
should be easy enough to tune parameters without having deep ant =
knowledge (example changing the default directory of sources, force =
compilation to be java 1.4 compatible, etc...).
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>> Last but not least, EasyAnt is intended to provide a plugin based =
architecture to make it easy to contribute on a specific step of the =
build. Build plugins are pieces of functionality that can be plugged =
into or removed from a project. Plugins could actually perform a piece =
of your regular build, e.g. compile java classes during build of a =
complete war. Or, do a utility action, e.g. deploy your built web =
application onto a packaged Jetty server!
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>> h2. Current Status
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>> h3. Meritocracy
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>> Some of the core developers are already committers and members of the =
Apache Ant PMC, so they understand what it means to have a process based =
on meritocracy.
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>> h3. Community
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>> EasyAnt have a really small community (around 100 downloads per =
release). It is not a problem as the team is currently making =
restructuring changes. The team plans to make more promotion after those =
changes and strongly believe that community is the priority as the tool =
is designed to be easy to use.
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>> h3. Core Developers
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>> Xavier Hanin and Nicolas Lalev=99=E9e are members of the PMC of =
Apache Ant.
>> Jerome Benois  is an Acceleo committer, he was a committer in Eclipse =
MDT Papyrus for two years and he's an active contributor in Eclipse =
Modeling and Model Driven community. He's a committer on Bushel project =
now contribute to the Ivy code base. He leads the EasyAnt for Eclipse =
plugin development.
>> Jason Trump is leading Beet project on sourceforge =
(http://beet.sourceforge.net/).
>> Jean-Louis Boudart is Hudson committer.
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>> h3. Alignment
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>> EasyAnt is based on Apache Ant and Ivy. Being part of Apache could =
help for a closer collaboration between projects.
>> The team plans to reinject as much as possible stuff into Ant or Ivy =
like they've done in the past on :
>> * extensionPoint : kind of IoC for targets (Ant)
>> * import/include mechanism (Ant)
>> * module inheritance (Ivy)
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>> h2. Known risks
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>> h3. Orphaned products
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>> Jean-Louis Boudart is the main developer of EasyAnt. Other developers =
got interested in this project and are now touching to every aspect of =
EasyAnt. Thus the risk of being orphaned is quite limited.
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>> h3. Inexperience with Open Source
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>> Many of the committers have experience working on open source =
projects. Two of them have experience as committers on other Apache =
projects.
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>> h3. Homogenous Developers
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>> The existing committers are spread over a number of countries and =
employers.
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>> h3. Reliance on Salaried Developers
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>> None of the developers rely on EasyAnt for consulting work.
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>> h3. Relationships with Other Apache Products
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>> As already stated above, EasyAnt is intended to have a quite good =
integration with both Apache Ant and Apache Ivy.
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>> h3. A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand
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>> As we're already based on many Apache project (Ant + Ivy), it seems =
natural for us that Apache Software Foundation could be a good host for =
this.
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>> h2. Documentation
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>> Further reading on EasyAnt can be found at: =
http://www.easyant.org/doc/
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>> Mailing list is located at http://groups.google.com/group/easyant
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>> h2. Initial Source
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>> The initial code base can be found at: http://svn.easyant.org/
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>> h2. Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan
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>> Ever developer is willing to sign the proper papers to make EasyAnt =
enter the ASF.
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>> h2. External Dependencies
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>> Easyant requires at compile/runtime :
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>> * apache ant
>> * apache ivy
>> * ant contrib
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>> h2. Required Resources
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>> h3. Mailing lists
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>> * easyant-private (with moderated subscriptions)
>> * easyant-dev
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>> h3. Subversion Directory
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>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/easyant
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>> h3. Issue Tracking
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>> JIRA EasyAnt (EASYANT)
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>> h2. Initial Committers
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>> * Xavier Hanin
>> * J=99=E9r=99=F4me Benois
>> * Jason Trump
>> * Siddhartha Purkayastha
>> * Nicolas Lalev=99=E9e
>> * Jean-Louis Boudart
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>> h2. Sponsors
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>> h3. Champions
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>> * Antoine L=99=E9vy-Lambert
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>> h3. Nominated Mentors
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>> * Antoine L=99=E9vy-Lambert
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>> h3. Sponsoring Entity
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>> * Apache Ant
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