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From Karl Wright <daddy...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1
Date Thu, 06 Jan 2011 16:10:46 GMT
I am happy to provide clear-text versions of KEYS and CHANGES.txt if
that is what you require.  I've just never seen any other Apache
project that did that.

As for whether there should be separate source and binary
distributions, bear in mind that a binary-only distribution of
ManifoldCF makes little sense.  ManifoldCF is unusual in that it
distributes a number of connectors which require third-party libraries
in order to compile.  We do not distribute those libraries for
licensing reasons.  Conditional compilation is used to build those
connectors for which you supply the right bits.  The binary part thus
includes only the framework, and those connectors which depend only on
open-source code.  This is relatively limited but makes it faster and
easier for someone to start things up right out of the box.

So, effectively, you are asking us to not have a binary distribution
in order to save on space.  Is this a firm request, or is this just
unhappiness at the download time?  FWIW, I personally don't think such
a build will save a great deal tar/zip space, but I can certainly
check and get back to you.

Karl


On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
<chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Hi Karl,
>
> On Jan 6, 2011, at 7:14 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
>
>> Answering on Grant's behalf, the ManifoldCF artifact contains both
>> source and binary, and the KEYS and CHANGES.txt files are within the
>> artifact, as seems to be standard Apache practice.
>
> Well I won't say it's standard Apache practice in my experience. I've made probably over
a dozen releases in about 3+ different Apache projects so far (Nutch, Tika, SIS) and I've
always put out a plain-text version of CHANGES.txt and KEYS alongside the release artifacts.
The advantage of doing so is that I don't have to download a 140 MB file before I can check
what changes are part of the release.
>
> Also one of the things that Clutch checks in the Incubator is that there is a KEYS file
in the distribution area, separate of the release artifacts. So, I would say it should be
there.
>
>>  You just need to
>> untar/unzip it.
>
> Thanks for the pointer. I'd like to see the source and binary tarballs separated. Strictly
speaking, you really only need a source release, but it's up to you guys I think if you want
to provide a binary one too. The advantage is that the source release is likely much smaller
I'm guessing than the binary.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
>> <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>> Hi Grant,
>>>
>>> Is this a source or binary release? How are you guys making the release? Using
Ant or Maven?
>>>
>>> Can you guys provide a KEYS and CHANGES.txt file as part of the release artifacts?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The Apache ManifoldCF community has voted to release our first set of artifacts
and now would like an Incubator vote.  Since this is our first release, extra attention to
detail is appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> You can find the artifacts at http://people.apache.org/~kwright/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Grant
>>>>
>>>>
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