Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 34689 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2010 00:31:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 5 Dec 2010 00:31:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 77783 invoked by uid 500); 5 Dec 2010 00:31:01 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 77346 invoked by uid 500); 5 Dec 2010 00:31:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 77338 invoked by uid 99); 5 Dec 2010 00:31:00 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 00:31:00 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of ralph.goers@dslextreme.com designates 209.85.161.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.161.175] (HELO mail-gx0-f175.google.com) (209.85.161.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 00:30:51 +0000 Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so5589314gxk.6 for ; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:30:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.182.1 with SMTP id e1mr6811746ybf.59.1291509030165; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:30:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.10.131] (cpe-75-82-178-177.socal.res.rr.com [75.82.178.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p30sm2282549ybk.8.2010.12.04.16.30.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:30:29 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator From: Ralph Goers In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 16:30:25 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <46EEA13A-5EE3-4AD4-99B3-C758E5D69661@apache.org> <22EAC8BF-0D3B-47AA-B7D5-C1F205B56AB6@dslextreme.com> <030E205C-B955-4AC9-BB1E-2507440E3357@dslextreme.com> To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Dec 4, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Dan Peterson wrote: >>=20 > Ian, Isabel (and anyone else I missed), sorry about that -- I manually > compared the list of voters against > http://apache.org/foundation/members.html > (and http://incubator.apache.org/whoweare.html ) >=20 > Ralph, your list looks more up to date it seems. To avoid confusion in = the > future, I imagine the ASF members page I found could be filled in from = the > same list as the committer-index page? members.html is maintained by the members themselves. Not all members = know to do that or simply don't add their information. At one point in = the recent past it was discussed having members.html derive from that = but since it contains more information I believe it was decided to leave = it alone. Instead, the committers page I referenced was moved from Jim's = user site to the main ASF site at the link I posted. committee-info.txt, from which whoweare.html gets its information, = should contain an accurate and up-to-date list of all PMC members on the = various projects at the ASF. However, it has gotten out of synch from = time to time. I believe the link I gave you derives from the ldap permissions that = govern what people can get to in subversion.=20 >=20 > One question related to incubator policy: are ASF member votes meant = to be > officially binding for incubator acceptance or is it explicitly = restricted > to the IPMC? Paul and I couldn't find a clear answer to that. There is = a > mention that the IPMC is responsible for incubator projects, so I = could see > it both ways. It wasn't an issue in this case, just wondering what the > policy is for any future potential incubator projects. ASF members can participate in any ASF project by subscribing to the = mailing lists and taking part in the community and PMC. Their votes are = not binding until the are officially part of the PMC. This is also true = of the incubator. However, unlike other projects, all a member has to do = to become part of the incubator PMC is to request to be added. So = incubator votes cast by ASF members who aren't on the PMC are = non-binding. Ralph= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org