From general-return-27411-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Thu Dec 02 04:00:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 92415 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2010 04:00:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 2 Dec 2010 04:00:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 7840 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2010 04:00:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 7485 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2010 04:00:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 7477 invoked by uid 99); 2 Dec 2010 04:00:06 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 04:00:06 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [148.87.113.121] (HELO rcsinet10.oracle.com) (148.87.113.121) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 03:59:58 +0000 Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oB23xZSO017859 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 03:59:36 GMT Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oB23tLhO011347 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 03:59:35 GMT Received: from abhmt002.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 835053101291262360; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 19:59:20 -0800 Received: from [192.168.0.12] (/69.181.138.81) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 19:59:19 -0800 Message-Id: From: Craig L Russell To: general@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: I think individuals need SGAs Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 19:59:17 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Hi Benson, I didn't see your edit. I might not be subscribed to the right list (yet). You are right. A pre-existing code base is not covered by an ICLA. A grant is needed. Craig On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I've been thinking about Leo's email of the other day, and I think > that my edit to the mentor page is not right and some guidance I've > delivered to podlings is not right. > > I'd like to float my logic here and see how it gets shot at. > > As Leo pointed out, the CCLA has a specific section for granting > rights to pre-existing IP. > > The ICLA does not. It has no schedule. It talks about contributions. > > When we import pre-existing code for a podling, it seems to me that it > is dubious to characterize this as an act of 'contribution' by the > historical authors, even if they are eagerly anticipating further > contributions to the code in the incubator. > > Therefore, I think that I should edit my edit, and send new advice, to > the effect that all historical contributors need to be covered by > SGAs. Those could be in the form of SGA schedules or in the form of > individual SGAs. > > --benson > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > Craig L Russell Architect, Oracle http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org