From general-return-27428-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Thu Dec 02 12:56:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 36645 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2010 12:56:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 2 Dec 2010 12:56:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 46442 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2010 12:56:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 45876 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2010 12:56:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 45868 invoked by uid 99); 2 Dec 2010 12:56:55 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 12:56:55 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of bimargulies@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.47] (HELO mail-bw0-f47.google.com) (209.85.214.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 12:56:50 +0000 Received: by bwz10 with SMTP id 10so7046165bwz.6 for ; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 04:56:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QZkUgumVx6lryU1i03mt/3Sw+fw29QtU0ugWL5WYsqA=; b=tj60IfTPDeFNS3tDIO4/ac9wnAtOOuTZX+fFJq+Wzs3TKQ+wdvQnHbaCxvCtju9A9F 9/a1sbNLOkfJAsZOFq0T6k0SovE+MfqpCUYLpHl7a/5vXhwlm3ddvdmaPy9GjB530iRb yZavJ1GOjkr5FeEG9tBbzhwCgGySoZEUtIkNI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=k+9DEdrxoVKEXPPRyL80LKbzXU84XgrPLB9Snj5UuuLa3ianLvJ0fDF3HbgnupSqJe 57WJEeAt0WXLTiSydjnz2Q4HhowVi3uLVjQ3nWnF3plXlM5VOZFPVHLPClDov1+0lDex oYuV4ZDR6S5XcNgGol6+LguBTC9M68BSF0FLo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.55.2 with SMTP id s2mr532702bkg.40.1291294589308; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 04:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.45.66 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 04:56:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 07:56:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I think individuals need SGAs From: Benson Margulies To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 To my pleasant surprise, Sam replied on legal-discuss that an icla is just fine -- though it's better if the person signing it actually reads it first. I plan to make some more tweaks to the web site to places that seem to say the opposite. On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I don't even know which mailing list gets commit notifies of infra web > site edits. > > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Craig L Russell > wrote: >> Hi Benson, >> >> I didn't see your edit. I might not be subscribed to the right list (yet). >> >> You are right. A pre-existing code base is not covered by an ICLA. A grant >> is needed. >> >> Craig >> >> On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >>> I've been thinking about Leo's email of the other day, and I think >>> that my edit to the mentor page is not right and some guidance I've >>> delivered to podlings is not right. >>> >>> I'd like to float my logic here and see how it gets shot at. >>> >>> As Leo pointed out, the CCLA has a specific section for granting >>> rights to pre-existing IP. >>> >>> The ICLA does not. It has no schedule. It talks about contributions. >>> >>> When we import pre-existing code for a podling, it seems to me that it >>> is dubious to characterize this as an act of 'contribution' by the >>> historical authors, even if they are eagerly anticipating further >>> contributions to the code in the incubator. >>> >>> Therefore, I think that I should edit my edit, and send new advice, to >>> the effect that all historical contributors need to be covered by >>> SGAs. Those could be in the form of SGA schedules or in the form of >>> individual SGAs. >>> >>> --benson >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> Craig L Russell >> Architect, Oracle >> http://db.apache.org/jdo >> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com >> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org