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From Thilo Götz <twgo...@gmx.de>
Subject Re: Basing Apache releases on releases from incubating projects
Date Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:46:12 GMT
On 12/1/2010 17:38, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2010, at 8:04 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> 
>> ----- Original Message ----
>>
>>> From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
>>> Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 10:57:48 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Basing Apache releases on releases from incubating projects
>>>
>>> Hi Owen,
>>>
>>> It's my understanding that Apache software can depend on other  software that

>>> falls within the guidelines here [1]. ASF Podlings, by definition  are software

>>> (released or not) that fall under the confines of Category A from  [1], so it's

>>> fine to depend on them (again, *released* or  not).
>>
>> Not so fast.  We don't require podlings to have their legal issues fully
>> resolved until it's time to release, so other projects should *not* be
>> shipping a podling's non-released codebase.
> 
> Hrm, umm, so what's the difference between this, and oh I don't know, some other library
I pick up as a TLP off Google code who claims their source is ASLv2 licensed? I have no guarantee
over there that the license issues are resolved either, yet we do that all the time over here
in Apache?

The difference is that the incubator code comes from
Apache, with all the ASF IP due diligence.  If we use
a third-party library that's under the AL, we mention
that it's not from Apache.  Our customers can then
decide for themselves how much they trust that other
source.  My understanding.

--Thilo

> 
> So, I don't agree with your point.
> 
> Cheers,
> Chris
> 
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